Mixing tires sets. What are your thoughts or experience?

I was embarrassed that I did not know that the OEM is a Dunlop Sportsmax 222. So am I right in concluding that the bike was equipped with a "Sport" Tire rather than a "Sport Touring" double compound tire as far as being the Sportmax 2? I cannot find info on the Dunlop sight as far as a difference in the the 2 and the 222? is it the same tire? you seam to say no in your statement. Confusing I must say. ridingalong what was the mileage you got out of the Oem? I have never had a sport or dual compound going more than 4,000 mile and Anne is saying she got 12,000 out a set of unknown or confused info for me.

 

That my friend is a amazing way of thinking!:cower:

 

I agree, I have used Michelin pro pilot 2"s on all of my other bikes (1995 Kawi Gpz1100 and just 15lbs heavier than the 2014, and the 2003 Suzuki Sv1000s at 417lbs dry and under a hundred pounds less) and never have gotten more than 4500 miles before switching, but curiously because I have gone from 180 to 220lbs on these bikes and did not get better mileage no matter the bike! What did everyone get on the OEM's on the 2014? I think that I could have gotten another 2500 miles on the OEM"s totaling almost 5000?

 

I know this sounds like I don't know shit and that could beeaceful: But could all of the 8th gen tell me what mileage they got out of the OEM 2014 Dunlop sportmax 222 (or aka Sportmax 2 since I cannot find a reference to the 222) Thank you ridingalong for your input on a substitute as well as the rest of you. Anne has mentioned that a tire she has tried got her 12,000 miles. I cannot fathom that being that what I know of her is max out riding (long trips but heavy all out corners at high speed). Max tire life for me and the bikes that I have owned *(Sport Touring dual compound) are at most 4,000-4,500 weather it be Michelin, Dunlop or even Bridgestone on the 1995 Gpz1100 as OEM.

 

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This kind of turned into an oil thread


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I never did understand why a front and rear had to be a match. I get it. They were designed to work together. But the front and rear do completely different jobs.

And l never had a new set "wear together" either. The front gets pointier, the back usually gets, in spite of my best efforts, flatspotted.

On my old 919, my favorite combo was a Pilot Power up front an a Conti Road Attack on back. I've even don a track day on that combo.

My current fave is the Pilot Power 3. I have a new set in the basement. But there are as few more mile left in in the set thats on the VFR now.

Ive never been too broke to buy a motorcycle tire.

 

What else would you expect from an amazing guy? This being said, if you went from 180 to 220lbs my amazing advice would be to cut back on the Jo-jo's.

 

For advice on plugs a good source of info are the motorcycle tire manufacturers sites. Naturally there will be a tendency to advise buying a new tire. Where the hole or plug is located is of great importance and well documented.

If you are freaked out about the plug in your tire, dismount the tire an put a patch over the plug. Plugs are generally made for side of the road flats and all plugs ain't the same including the plugging kits.

 

It depends on what oil you are using . . .






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The 222 is an OEM version of the Roadsmart 2. It is a single compound, where the RS2 is a dual compound. The 222 is still considered a sport touring tire, just like the RS2. Same exact tread pattern between the two. Although some claim the 222's are shit, I thought they were good. Within the first hundred miles on the new bike, I had zero chicken strips on the rear and barely 1/4" on the front. The only problem I had was the short life...I only got 3k miles from the OEM 222s. I think I got close to 6k out of the RS2. I've also run the PR4 and Angel GT. Like I said before, I will probably get the RS2 again next time. FYI, all my riding is hard and fast in the mountains of Colorado.

 

Anne I did not mean to imply any lying. Sorry if you got that for that last post. Always enjoy and take note of your input. Sorry. I was envious of your life time mileage and I know you ride hard. That was a compliment that you did not get. I have never gotten that beloved mileage and look forward to getting the same. I sometime have a way of saying things that are misunderstood. ("I cannot fathom" was not to mean "lying") I owe you a beer or a shot when I get the chance to meet you!;-)

 

Thanks Billy, The plug I used was a gummy type. I think that is was for offroad use. It was dead center on the rear and a big 3-4mm hole. Let me know the best patch kit you know of because once it happens to you it will indeed happen again, Thanks. Mike D.

 

The cheap option is to put a tube in the tire. It'll build more heat in the tire with a tube, so maybe keep it under 120 mph, or under a sustained 85 mph. Also, you can get a plug/patch. It's a patch on the inside with a plug going through the hole. You'd have to pay for the service though.
As for mixing tires, I have done it a few times in the last 25 years. No problems. I've even mixed a radial with a bias ply. I recently heard of an OEM mixing radial and bias ply tires on a new model. If it was me, I'd consult with the dealership. If the puncture was in the tread area, go ahead and fix it.

 

Are those the same as the plugs at www.gummyplug.com? I've only been riding a month and have yet to have a flat and I like to make up shit and post it here.

 

So this is what my Michelin PP3 and PR4 tires look like after 13,700 miles. This is mostly commuting and a few sport rides thrown in. I installed them back on November 18, 2015. You'll see the wear front/rear is pretty close and this is about where the Michelins will start to let you know that replacement time is pending. Mostly the rear tire starts to give you hints and when that happens, I order new ones and try and keep from pushing the front!

 

...Mich, pp2ct 3,800mi ((front))