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Emergency stop w/ ABS breaks

Discussion in 'General VFR Discussions' started by Molsan, Aug 16, 2007.

  1. Molsan

    Molsan New Member

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    Alright i currently ride a 05 vfr800 with the ABS system.

    I have breaked hard before to see how it felt and practice the skill.
    I currently load the front break and increase the presure slowly as the mass shifts forward. the rear break is on just a bit as i am more focused on the front.

    I stop fast enough to practicaly launch me off the bike and bring the rear wheel up.

    What i have NOT done is grab the front break and pull as hard as i can. So ihave almost never experianced the abs in the front wheel(i have locked the rear while practicing...it worked well, stoping down hard and focusing on the front works well.)

    So in an emergency and if a panic what happens if i pile onto the front break?
    Will the bike stop so fast i will do an uncontroled endo? or does abs prevent this somehow?
    Will i be launched fromt he bike?

    Also if an angry dwarf does jump out in front of me should i continue to threshhold break the front...or break as hard as i can.(dwarf is fat can't go around, and i'm driving in a straight line)
     


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  2. k9style00

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    see my last post, I had the unfortunate privelage to hammering both breaks this morning, front end did a nose dive, I definately felt my weight going forward but had locked my legs around the tank so I didn't go up and over, granted I did let off the break when I was clear. ABS worked great.
     


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  3. rodon

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    What? Are you kidding? Are you saying you can brake hard enough such that you're worried about looping over the bars? No way!
     


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  4. eddievalleytrailer

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    The ABS will only keep the wheels from locking up. The system doesn't know if the rear wheel is getting light or if the rider is about to hurl over the bars. The ABS system is most useful on slick surfaces, such as wet roads or paint strips. I wouldn't crank the front brake all the way unless I wanted to get off the bike and onto my butt:lever:, but playing with the rear could be kinda fun I guess. Sounds right to me....hard on the rear and using the front as hard as you can hold on, and not get the rear too light.
    As for as the dwarf.......run his a$$ over.:biggrin:
     


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  5. nitronorth

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    You ever need them, crank them hard as you can, just like a car....

    dont forget, most of the the benefit of abs is the ability to steer while on the brakes as hard as possible..Same as the cars, unfortunately not many people get educated in this fact and think its all in the stopping.. being able to swerve around the problem is sometimes the lifesaver.. Thats why lots of people whine their abs doesnt work as good as non abs on some surfaces, they are right, it doesnt alway stop you faster, but it will let you steer..SO next time you need to use them..crank them hard as you can and steer...Might just save the day! Unless they pitch you over the bars and into that truck! :)
     


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  6. PorscheBob

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    Molson, I suggest that you should NOT combine really hard braking (not breaking) and "steering" at the same time. Go find an empty parking lot and practice straight line braking. Then practice swerving, but do not combine them. Remember, on a clean dry surface ABS braking distance will be longer than non-ABS systems.
     


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  7. imnohero

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    I have an 06 with ABS. I cranked on the brakes hard a few times on a dry surface to see what would happen. It was a hard fast stop. Not particularly uncomfortable or uncontrollable. In the wet, I've had the ABS kick in a couple times braking up to stop lights (I always seem to catch the yellows right at that "do I stop or go" point), but again, it was a smooth controlled stop.

    For myself, I'm a proponent of ABS. The real world seems to rarely present clean dry smooth surfaces on which to apply max braking and ABS gives me a margin of control that I wouldn't otherwise have.
     


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    I have to agree with you, nitronorth. As long as the wheels are rolling, you have the ability to steer. The rider can brake hard while steering around the idiot who pulled out in front of him. If the wheels lock, the bike won't steer, only slide.
     


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    Just remember, most bikes don't like to lean when on the brakes, and that it will take more muscle to do so.
     


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