Ignition, Starter, Stuck issues, battery issue? Anyone?

Hello everyone,
Wanted to ask if anyone has had the same issues, symptoms that I am currently having. I turned the key and hit the start button and as it was turning with the starter, it got stuck. It kept spinning as if the start button was stuck. I turned the key to off and clicked the run to off. Starter kept spinning as if it was trying to start. This has happened to me before. The bike turned on and the starter kept spinning. It freaked me out so I quickly disconnected the battery and it was really hot from the terminals.
I then tried to connect the battery again, and it tried to start with the ignition key turned off. Seems like the starter is stuck or something. Has this happened to anyone else? I have a 92 vfr750, was running great. I did check the battery and it was at 11.6 which I thought was a bit low. I am charging it now. I did test it when I connected the bike to the battery and it dragged to 1.6
Any help would be appreciated.

 

If I read this right, it sounds like your Starter Solenoid Relay (the big relay that has the big thick red wire goes to) is stuck. This is the only thing I can think of that would cause a key off starting situation like you describe. Replace the Starter Solenoid Relay.

 

Big Jim,
I am going to check inspect and check it tomorrow. Could it be that the new starter solenoid is faulty? I just bought one like 3 months ago. Everything was working fine. If this issue is was is causing a key off starting situation, then that's what it maybe. I will say the key ignition feels weird. It use to have a click when it was on turned to the on position , now it feels like its stripped and no click. Could be my mind playing tricks on me. Could that also be causing a load in the battery? When I tested the battery with a multimeter it went from 11.6 to 1.6 when I connected the main wire.

 

The main wire (big thick cable) goes from the pos side of the battery to the starter through the solenoid relay. If the solenoid relay is stuck it will be a direct heavy drain on the battery. Once again (if I read this right) you had to pull the ground wire to stop the starter from spinning even with the key off and the kill switch off. This just sounds like a bad starter solenoid relay. Just because it's new does not mean it's not crap.

 

+1

Solenoid is jammed - unless/until it returns to the off position, there will be a significant drain on the battery from the energised solenoid windings, and it will also be sending power to the starter motor which places an even bigger drain on the battery.

So until you get this sorted, keep the battery disconnected. Remove and service the solenoid. Test it and if it remains jammed, then I guess after almost 25 years service, it could be time to fit a new component.



SkiMad

 

Trying to start with a low battery can cause the contacts in the relay to weld closed such as yours have done. 11.6 V is a worn out or dead battery, should be 12.6

 

Good evening everyone, So I finally charged my battery and tested the starter solenoid and it was bad. Big Jim you were correct! It seems like it was stuck, possibly from low battery as Kenny suggested. I changed the relay from my 2000 Honda 750 and walla! It worked like a charm! If this relay goes, I will know its the battery causing it. Thanks again to all of you for your advice and suggestions!

 

Yep, Honda uses that starting set up on all kinds of applications. My FT500 Ascot had it, My VTR has it and yes, a low battery can cause it to stick and then weld itself in the on position. Good job finding that. I know it kind of freaks you out when it won't stop spinning. If you have a low battery get it replaced. Japanese charging systems work in concert with all its parts. If you have a bad battery that is drawing more current it can cause the other components to burn up. I try and change my batteries prophylacticlly for this reason. Running around on an iffy battery is hard on the system.