Kansas to Prince Rupert, BC, Canada or Bust!

LOL... Getting me on the back of any bike with anyone takes a few mg. of Thorazine. More things to do when riding bitch. Popular among the harleydood crowd.

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Check the spark plugs my cb used to eat through plugs like crazy ( I had to replace them yearly) when it ran on only 3 cylinders I would have problems under load like you're having on hills, smooth even acceleration didn't have much affect on running on 3 cylinders

 

This is beyond plugs. The dash lights are flickering.

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Is there not a ground junction in the front fairing?

 

Yessir. One of my targets later today.

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Did you bypass the sensor?

 

OK. So, we swapped seats and I rode her bike to Owatonna, MN.

It happened to me several times.

- the bike would start to surge and get worse.
- the FI light would go on and off
- the dash went completely dead and I'd lose power.
- when it went dead I'd pull the clutch back in and it would still be running.
- one time it did shit down completely

Here's what I found ... a burnt positive battery cover and a loose positive battery terminal.
- the oil and other lights were dim and / or flickering when you turn the key on.

The new issues started right after the new battery was installed according to AM.

I'm thinking the loose terminal may be the issue. Seemed to happen more frequently on rougher roads.

We have the bike apart and I am looking at everything.

Can someone show mW where the main grounding points on the bike are so I can check / clean them?

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Oh ... and the pic ...





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OK, that sounds very logical. CPU's do not like lower than normal voltages. Who put in the new battery?

 

AM put it in. I found all the ground wires under the back of the tank. They looked OK but cleaned them and the contact since I was already in there.

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Wrenching and enjoying the RC helicopter event. So glad to see so many familiar and friendly faces.

Almost forgot how many friends I have here.



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Only one "ground point" indicated in the FSM.

However, there are ground connections upfront, an they may be tucked inside one of those boots, not shown in FSM.

Front green wire ground connections.

Hope this helps, good luck.

 

Thanks! I found the one on the sub harness up front. They route back to the main point under the back of the tank.



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That burning of the positive cover is new for sure. Was not there when we put in the new battery. No idea why that came loose. We did tighten that well. At this point I agree with gators sugvestion to bypass the sensor for now. Won't hurt I don't think.

 

Left field suggestion - I went to check out reviews of that battery tender. I think this looks similar to the one you have and some of the reviews are far from encouraging...

http://www.amazon.com/Battery-Tende...iewpnt_rgt?pageNumber=1&filterByStar=critical

comments like ".. don't like rain.." rang a bell, as did this..

".. Editing my review. The reason it works on the S5 is it literally drains the battery. I was stranded a couple time unable to start the bike before I figured it out. I switched back to http://www.amazon.com/SAE-USB-Adapter-Motorcycle-Charger/dp/B007VFFQRE and specified the model he makes for the S5 and it solved the issue. If you want to use this one, be sure to unplug it immediately after stopping the engine so you can start your bike again.".


I am not sure this is exactly the same unit you have AM but as others have apparently caught fire - presumably due to a shorting problem with internal battery circuitry - If yours has gone bad it could easily draw heaps of power from your bike/battery leaving you stranded. - sort of matches with - first observed problem - phone not charging, and later comments about the thing being drained despite being connected all day.

Please consider using normal mains battery charging wherever available, and make sure the battery tender is left disconnected for one full day riding. If the problem recurs with it disconnected - then its one potential worry eliminated, if the bike runs fine - maybe find an alternative battery tender. This is the sort of thing Long and I used for the 15 day trip up to R3 and each night it had ample power to quickly recharge 2 mobile phones and 2 Schuberth(Cardo) intercom systems..

https://www.amazon.com/RAVPower-RP-...dp/B00EHEEFWY?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0


However having read through the posts, I fear that you may also be struggling with a heat related stator problem. I know Randy? tested your stator - but was it only tested cold? My 2006 stator also tested fine when it was cold - but after an hour riding the winding insulation began to fail leaving just one phase supplying power to the RR which was then forced to run constantly at max output causing hot wires and when that failed I ended up having to get the bike towed.


Good luck - and keep smiling!


SkiMad

 

I think you are right on the money, Skimad! Best to try one thing at a time. While you are in there, Jeff, dodesn't hurt to check for a loose ground, but one loose ground probably won't effect the multitude of systems affected. I was always told to disconnect the actaul connectors, to look for burnt/bent pins,as well.

 

Skimad, do you know how much voltage your bike put out with only one of three windings working? I guess that'd mean that the Regulator would have to supply the field coil max. current as well. Like you say, not good. But, I was told that the field coil only gets about 3 amps from the reg.? Funny it'd get real hot.

 

Well, got the bike back together.

Cleaned all the ground wires and contacts. Checked all connectors. No oxidization or burning except at the battery.

I also adjusted her clutch switch that was giving issues.

This is not a stator issue. The battery is charged. The stator will not shut the dash down and make dash lights flicker dimly with while the battery is in good shape still.

I don't believe its the bank angle sensor now either.

Riding the bike and having it fail for me gave me a lot of insight.

We tested the charging system and she's actually getting a much better reading now.

Prior she was only getting about 14.05v and now she's getting about 14.16v .... we're going to go for a ride / cruise before the festivities start here.

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Lucky it's hot where you guys are. Having some wicked thunderstorms up here. At least it reduces the Forest Fire situation. Wow! Crazy hard rain. Isn't even hot, either.

 

But... It IS something! Skimad had some good points, I believe. Could be an intermittent issue.