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I saw wires coming from under the seat up to the Tank Bag,,.. are they Pinch'd?, Burn'd?, Shorted?

Look'd over the Bike Schematic and did not see a Accessory Line, like a Car has (Cigarette Lighter, Radio,,..).
That means Power to run the Cell Charger has been "stolen" from some Critical Circuit.
Which One?
Did the +12V get piggybacked from the CPU Power? That could make the bike act Possessed.
+12V could be taken from a Signal Control Line (low wattage)(very bad) or off a Relay Line (high wattage).

I always steal from the Low Beam Circuit, it won't notice an extra Amp or 2.
If the Low Beam burns out, the accessory will still work.
Also means using High Beam (more wattage needed) automatically shuts the Accessory Off.
Its also a Switch'd Line,,.. Key Off and the power goes Off too.

Was power stolen from a Switch'd or UnSwitch'd circuit?
Unswitch'd means it could run the battery down even when the bike is Off.

 

Neutral Territory

Rember you asked what you could bring us, before you left home, and I said just the Adventure Stories?,,.. bet ya could write a Book now.
Humans, eh,,.. can't Live with'em, Can't Kill'em,,..
Glad you had Fun here.

Happy you had a good ride yesterday, we even set a new High Temp Record (well, its Hot for us).
Hope that Frozen Water bottle did the trick.

USB off the battery should work fine. It should have its own Inline Fuse, AND its own Inline Power Switch.
If the Charge Unit is in the Tank Bag and packed in, watch it for over-heating, don't want it to catch Fire.

Starting only in Neutral is a Clue.
If in gear it should still be Start-able, but you need to pull in the Clutch (there is a Clutch Switch).
If the Clutch Switch has Failed (it gets a lot of mileage, used with every Shift), it might not work, must be in Neutral.
I think the Clutch Switch is exposed directly to the elements, will get hit with rain/road grime.
Switches typically go Intermittent before full failure.
If it does Fail completely, it just means always having to Start in Neutral, no biggie.
The Clutch Switch is a Safety Item, can't run the Starter while in gear, without Clutch, or Bike will jump,,..
Keep thinking it through.

Chin Up,,..

 

VF1000e posted what I was going to suggest next. I still think it's either the side stand or the switch at the clutch. Chin up girl. Ride on.

 

Problem with the switches theory is that her dash would reset and it would drop to 3.88v across the battery with the key in the on position.

That tells me it is a bad short to draw all that power away.

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Gota love adventures. This one is something else, talk about bringing a community together. Nice job guys, and Way to hang in there Anne.

 

Good point A.M Your bike problems have given some of us a better opportunity to know you better. I have walked away from this a winner.

Is there not a switch at the side stand as well. One that kills the motor when the side stand is deployed when in gear. I suggested that to AM last night but then read about the clutch switch that had totally slipped my mind. YOu knw? Of all the things I have lost over my many years, what I really miss the most is my mind.

As far as the cell phone connector, I don't believe that to be an issue generally speaking. My bike is wired for cell phone, Sena coms, heated jacket liner, pant liner, insoles and what ever all through the cord that came with the Gerbings. When AM arrived here, I was hooked up with the Sean and cell phone on continuous charge so that the batteries stayed fresh as we toured around for the day. If that cell connector is the problem, it must be an isolated problem, not a regular issue.

I do think that the switch at the clutch or the side stand is the next logical place to look. But, now that she is in an area where a shorter walk to a farm house or whatever for assistance is available, she should try her best to make her way home and get that bike into a shop that works on Hondas regularly and have a knowledgeable tech try to figure put where this problem is.

 

What about the report that it wouldn't start without repeatedly working the kill switch? Could it be that switch or maybe the switch part of a relay is sticky?

 

Mind over, um,,.. what was that?,,..

" YOu knw? Of all the things I have lost over my many years, what I really miss the most is my mind."
You Too?,,.. If you find Yours, lemme know, Mine is probably there too!,,..

"Problem with the switches theory is that her dash would reset and it would drop to 3.88v across the battery with the key in the on position.
That tells me it is a bad short to draw all that power away."
I have to agree with this too, And is the Cell Charger Always ON?
Are the wires from the Battery to Cell Charger Chafing somewhere? I hate Chafing.
Might still be 2 different problems.

 

Oh my!

Just got a call a few minutes ago from AM. She is at roadside just outside Bowsman Montana. I suspect on the west side on Interstate 90. Correction, by the signage in her photo and Google directions, this puts her about mid way between Bowezman and Livingstone east bound.She looked out her mirrors and saw smoke everywhere. She pulled over to roadside, and somehow, she had lost here oil drain plug and all her oil. Now she is stuck there. She has a call into Jeff. Jeff has a contact nearby but Jeff was unavailable to the phone. Understandable. He is on the road himself. AM has left messages with Jeff both on his cell and messaging.

Back to the missing oil drain plug. AM is not new to this. She changed the oil in Calgary I think and put the plug in and torqued it to spec. I only hope that she did not strip the threads on the pan. Not that I have ever done that you understand.

So we are in need of help. She is conserving her cell phone battery so I can act as the in between to some degree. What she is going to need is 3.5 gal of oil, a drain plug and the crush washer. But she now has oil all over the side of her bike. Very dangerous to ride and wear that off. The best option would be to get that bike off the freeway and to a coin op car wash to give the tires and brakes a good high pressure cleaning using some degreeser and also a good cleaning of the brakes with brake cleaner.

If a heli coil is needed, can someone tell us what size. I just replaced the pan on mine so don't know much about these things. How are they put in and with what tools. She is carrying tools but whether she has what is needed to install a heli coil is not known.

I can be reached at Cell: 604-316-6447, or landline 604-824-0538. If you call me on my cell, and I don't answer, leave a message please and thank you. I could be up a tree picking those cherries A.M was drooling over.

 

Seems she beat me to the punch. When you get at this AM, you only need to remove the right side fairing I believe. SHould not need to remove both so that is a little bit of a blessing.

 

You make me want to stick to local rides :jaw:

 

They also are known as Yellowstone Motorsports and seem to be a fairly big operation. Good place to return to. If you get going Jen, be sure to stop at a car wash and deal with that oil on your brakes and wheels. Ideally, you would get your bike transported there.

 

I'm trying to get in touch with a friend that lives in Bozman.

 

Holy JEEZ AM. If you can get bike up on center stand and get to your lug wrench, I know it means unpacking the bike, but then you could remove the rear tire and maybe roll the tire in some of he gravel sand on he edge of the road to remove some of the oil. Then maybe rub some sand/dirt over the tread to soak lift off some more. Then if there is a stream or water nearby you might be able to wash off the sand and dirt residue. Let tire sit in sun to dry and then see how much extra is left afterwards. I'd be cautious about riding anywhere with oil all over the tire. Alternately, put on center stand and rub the sand/dirt on the tire to try and get that to soak up some of the oil. Then he sure to wipe off the excess sand or dirt before riding off. Without any oil though, you're gonna need a tow truck to get you somewhere to repair or someone who can help. If you can stop someone with a camper you should be able to clean tire with a rag, water and some dish soap.

Sorry AM. Was typing during all the repsonses. Too little too late. Hope you get things all sorted soon. Just another bump in the highway of life. Stay safe.