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  1. Big_Panda

    Big_Panda New Member

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    Well I know that the VFRs, some of them, have stator issues. Found out mine was one of them. I was out of a ride a few weeks ago and was having a great time. I noticed my voltmeter was riding a little low around 8 volts. Then at a stop light I saw a puff of smoke come out from between the front of my tank and my triple trees. I knew that couldn't be good so I pulled over, notified my buddy that I needed to bail and go home. On the ride home my electronics all worked intermittently. Speed o, gas, odd, and head lights all weren't working properly. I knew then it was likely my stator, reg, or rectifier. The next day I had to jump it and rode over to a local tuning shop, Jett Tuning in camarillo. After a week at the shop they gave me a call and let me know that my stator and the problem had also killed my battery. While it was in the shop I decided to get new tires too. Went with the Pilot 4 GT.

    Here is my stator after removed...
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    Super happy with Jett Tuning. They were great. Rode the bike home and the new tires feel great! Didn't realize how square mine had gotten and how much that effects the ride and control.
     


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    Been there. Done that. Once in Vegas and once in the armpit of Canada, Regina Saskatchewan. My stator in the Vegas incident was even blacker that that by a bit. Racer's Edge in Vegas had me on the road in 5 days or so after bringing in a stator from Wisconsin.
     


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    So lets have a pic of the stator plug, most likely it was the cause of the stator cooking itself, stator has been shorted out to cook it like that.
    Cooked stators have certainly reduced dramatically in probably the last 12 months and hopefully that is a result of people removing the connector plug and soldering and heatshrinking the wires.

    But now I'm having problems with the stator on my Briggs and Stratton, any help here? All to confusing trying to use the Briggs and Stratton diagnosis guide
     


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    I didn't keep the stator so I don't have a picture of the plug.
     


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    I agree for the 750's and early 800s the stator connector may have been a contributor to charging issues, so soldering the join might eliminate it as possible weakness. But unfortunately there are other reasons why the charging system on these bikes fails. When the stator on my 2006 failed it was primarily due to the RR failing during a long distance (600 miles) motorway run on a really hot summer day resulting in the stator running for extended periods at full output eventually causing internal shorts in the stator windings. When I pulled the stator it was clear that the connector was however in perfect condition but the stator windings looked just like the photo above and was accompanied by a very evident smell of fried electrical windings, the original Honda RR and Battery were only fit for the bin. So quite an expensive breakdown!

    As for problems with a Briggs and Stratton stator - I am intrigued to know what is this part of?

    Over in Europe Briggs & Stratton mostly sell snow machines and lawn mowers? I guess that for a 12v petrol engine fitted with a stator/RR set-up the "the drill" diagnostic checks might help with fault finding even if its not a motorbike engine. But some small petrol engines use "alternators" and any diagnostic testing would probably be different.


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    Skid as you say a bad R/R can also take your stator out, I guess with a volt meter fitted you might have seen some change in the charging that may have given you some warning.
    The Briggs and Stratton is in a ride on mower and I don't think the drill will help because this stator is a 2 wire single phase type and the wiring had been butchered by some previous owner so I'm not exactly sure how or if it was rectified or regulated
     


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    Yes when I finally got home I fitted a cheapo LED voltmeter to an ignition live circuit. I don't really care that it is far from accurate typically showing a steady 14.8 volts with the engine running whilst my certified multi-meter will say its only 14.0 volts, what matters is the number remains stable. If I see the volts drop or soar alarmingly then its a sure sign something is wrong and time to head swiftly home or at least take steps to avoid being stranded.


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    Chances are the "stator" on the B & S is the ignition coil if it rides on the outside of the flywheel.

    If it is a ride on with eletric start & battery, then of course it is an alternator.
     


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    Thanks Ally, it is a stator, it is fitted inside the wheel, the ignition coil is on the outside as per standard B&S.
     


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