5th gen question about mounting fairing part

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    Hi,

    After fixing damage to my VFR 800 Fi (1998) because of an accident in august, I am almost done, and busy with mounting the fairing parts.
    Front fearing allready fitted. Now I am in doubt what is screwed or which bolt should be mounted in both aluminium mount frames next to the ignition coils.

    I find it difficult to explain. Sorry about my bad English vocabulary :). Both aluminium mounting parts are mounted to the iginition coils. There is some rubber (cylinder shaped) part inside of the mouting hole, with tapped wire thread inside.
    So after the upper fairing is mounted by screwing the bolt on, the rubber will expand and then because of that, will keep the upper fairing steady and mounted on both sides. (se photo). Is this the right way to mount it together ?

    Other question is about the same mounting area. Small black plastic side panels (dirt protectors i guess) are mounted to this part, but I can not find out exactly how to mount them together.

    I would like your comment or advise how I should mount it. I am sure I need all the retaining bolts I still have (all screws, bolts and small parts are complete, did not loose any part). Here are pictures of what I mean:

    afb16.jpg afb18.jpg afb23.jpg

    Questions I still have:

    Is the mounting with rubber on "A" right ?

    What should be mounted in the hole in location of "B" ? There is no screw-thread inside this, and I have tried one type of plastic fairing mouting clip (Honda brand) with cross screw head but it simple is a little too thick to fit in and mount it together.

    Is the plastic clip on "C" the right way mounted ?

    Are the holes on "D" mounted with the long bolts ? So in the screw thread of the bolt is in the side-fairing panels ?

    Location "E" on the left side I have a small broken peace of red plastic from the edge, it is a very small part just to hold the black plastic anti-dirt case fitted togeter. In my picture this little thing is broken off. What is your advice in order to get this repaired somehow ? Drill a small hole and screw ? (ugly?) Or drill a hole and use plastic mounting clip, or use some sort of power tape on the inside to hod together ?
    Or glue some plastic strip on the inner part of the fairing so it will stick out a little and then it can fit in the plastic opening to hold the two together ?

    What cable should be held in "F" ?

    Where to mount the plastic clip "G" ?

    "F" and "G" are on the right side of the front-fairing. I think it is a temperature sensor mounted there ?

    Those questions arose because I do not have photos of these parts before I disassembled the total front of the bike.

    I hope you can help me out with advise and comments !

    In general I also would like comments if those parts which are fitted on the pictures , if those are fitted in the right way.
    Thank you for your time.

    Cheers,
    Erik
     
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    I have allready built the fairing. No screws left, al compete and mounted as it should. Thread may be closed.
     


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    Good job edk!

    The threads (unlike cases in an IT department) stay open in perpetuity. You'll see, 10 years from now someone just might read this helpful info and click on "thanks".
     


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    Ok then it is worth it to keep the posts :) Only tips I can give to someone who want to disassemble and assemble the total front and fairing of the VFR, put all different parts like clips and screws, and bolts etc.. seperated in a functional way.

    (example; side fairing left, side fairing right, mounting clips fairing front etc... keep all the small objects in a plastic freezer bag (strong plastic) and label each of them, according to the content (where these screws and clips came of off). So later on the label will remind you where the things in the bag need to be placed and mounted.
    And ofcourse, take lots of clear photos with enough surrounding light !! Photos can be very handy to see how it was mounted before !

    The plastic fairing clips/push pins from Honda brand are really good and strong, and they last long i think.
    And they hold very tough with vibrations in the bike. But.. to disassemble, you need to be carefull not to damage the plastic pin/clip. They will not cost a fortune, but not very easy to find on internet webshops. A local Honda dealer will have those in stock, and coast around $2 each.


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    The black rubber with nickle colored screwthread inside, should be placed in the aluminium small frame hole, attached to the ignition coils (screw thread on the bottom side).

    First put/fit the side fairing on this rubber, and on top of that, you put the black plastic frame.
    Then use a long bolt to attach them together. When you scre the bolt in, you will notice that the rubber will contract and therefore expand and will be flattened. That will give a very good mount of these parts.

    All fairing parts (front, both side panels) are mounted together with the long bolts. You cant miss them. Important to count first if you can see everything is complete.

    The signal turn lights on the front fairing can be assembled later when all fairing is mounted. You do not need to mount them in advance. (I was thinking why would you need to remove the fairing just to change a light bulb in case it is broken?) I had to figure it out how to mount the turn signal lights, but it is easy.

    Just take your time and see for yourself how it should be fitted. It was easier than I thought.

    I have found my bolts to be a bit corroded by weather influence. Looks are not so nice. So I used some silver spray and repaint them on a old piece of newspaper. Now all bolts for the fairing mounting have the same silvergrey color. Maybe next time I try to get Honda R157 red spray paint and paint them the same color as the fairing.

    The pushpins I used are Honda OEM parts (I ordered some new ones because I broke some while disassembling the fairing and I did not now how to open the pushpins in a normal way).

    There are aftermarket pushpins / screwpins from plastic and they will do the job I guess.But I prefer to use original fairing pushpins so I am 100% sure they will fit and hold the fairing steady together while riding the bike.

    All in all, if you are handy and are willing to spend own time to fix your bike or do some own maintenance, that will save you from high service costs from a local motor dealer. And it is fun to do it yourself, you learn a lot about your own bike, and you learn all the smal parts attached to it and where they should be located.

    If I have some time, I will upload some more picture in this thread so you can see the fairing clips and screws. It is not hard to do assembling yourself, but it will give you some overthinking moments when everything is disassembled and you want to assemble but do not now exaclty how everything should be fitted together.

    Important message is to:
    - first look at all the bolts and screws and virtually try to think that you want to put the screws and fairing pushpins/clips in. Just look at them first and try to find the positions and the way how to fit them yourself. If that is clear (or not, see through internet or workplace manuals), then do the mounting.

    For bolts I advice, first bolt them by hand and do not immediately use tools to bolt them. Use tools when the bolts is almost fastened or you cant turn the bolt anymore by hand. By that way you wont damage the screw thread. When direclty starting to bolt / screw with tools it is very easy to damage the thread of the nut or mounting parts because you cant feel the force when turning the bolt.
    When you do by hand you have much more feeling with what you are doing. Just a tip.

    Bolts in aluminium (brake system mounting on the front forks): NEVER use copper grease on those bolts. Aluminium will rott away because of copper grease !.That is no joke. Put a very little bit of white grease on the bolt thread (not too much, just a little). That is good for protection against moisture and prevents most chance of new corrosion on the bolt thread.

    Hope my English is not that bad and it is informative for someone.
    Good luck !

    Regards,
    Erik
     
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