6th gen front wheel fairing fitment on a 5th gen

hey everyone!
Well, through winter I have done some tinkering here and there. Last ride in December my bike died on me so I walked it almost 2 miles home (eh. it was nice out) but forgot to figure out the issue. Found out last week it was the R/R so thanks to this forum, I wired in the 09 R1 unit and she charges at 14.2v idle at warm temp. did some other junk and left the stock gearing on and so on. I keep forgetting that while the bike is 15 years old (age is only a number) it just turned 12k miles.

So, this bike did not come with all original fairings. In fact it came with a fully boxed chinese set and had the bare minumum mounted so it functioned. One thing i noticed while doing the brake bleed and rear caliper rebuild was the front wheel fairing bolt holes were rough. So fixed that only to neglect some low end loctite and the result was the front fairing lost 2 bolts (how, i would LOVE to know because they were in there good) and i cooked that fairing with the tire.

Question here is whether a 6th gen, 2002 front wheel fairing will fit on my 00 5th gen. I have compared pics, compared parts fiche and the lower shock bodies look identical and part numbers dont match as I imagine the internal dampening and construction is varied but those bolt holes look damn close if not the same.

I did search the forum before making this so my apologies if there is a thread on this and i just missed it. I got side tracked into a members build thread about putting a 6th gen tail on his 5th gen. I had the same idea too. Decided to keep my 5th gen, and replaced my stock can for a delkevic SS70 high mount. WOW. now I have a complete delkevic exhaust and before I match paint and finish things up, I need a front wheel fairing.

Any advice on fitment would be great or if there is a thread answering my question, let me know. Theres a lot in this forum and i feel I may have missed it.

Also, bleeding the brakes on this bike wasnt as bad as once thought. I rebuilt the rear master and caliper and i need to bleed the rear again because I should have hung the caliper as high as possible to force air out. the directions in the manual said to screw it to the rear rotor and bleed it but i realize now that it left lots of air in it. But that mightyvac bleeder is awesome for this project. i scrapped the idea of making a power bleeder adapter due to impatience and i just dont feel like re-inventing the wheel when its proven a vac. bleeder does it well.

sorry for the long post. I'm just happy I can ride again with half decent weather and the bike does well without the PAIR valve system too.

 

I don't know exatly what a wheel fairing is. if you mean fender, why would not just get a fender for 5th gen VFR. a new one is a couple hundred bucks or go to e-bay. your's is yellow 2002 is not.

 

I should say the terminology varies depending on where you are. Yes i guess you could call it a front fairing (term used at partzilla) however I do not care about color as this will be a different color from stock anyway. Unfortunately, the only original color part is the gas tank. I like the yellow but for now, im doing something different.

Reason for asking about cross fit, is I like the looks of the 6th gen (2002 year) front fairing and sourcing that is somewhat easier than the 5th gen.

I have the original tail fairing as well but since its in good condition I am keeping that wrapped and will just keep using the body kit that came with the bike.

 

It sounds like you mean the entire front end fairing, not just the fender that covers the front wheel. There are a few "Frankenviffers" out there where they put CBR or other make/model fairings on the VFR (5 and 6 Gens). Although it is not direct bolt on affair, AFIK, but it is feasible with the right amount of knowledge and know how.

 

Hehe OOTV, that is why i said wheel fairing in the beginning. There are oh so many ways to call one thing i have realized.

I am in fact talking about the wheel fairing/fender/mudguard. The piece of plastic that covers the front wheel and attaches to the fork lower tubes, haha!

i was reading another members' build thread on grafting a 6th gen tail to his 5th gen which would be awesome but i dont have the time for it now. I like the 5th gen styling and lines but I do like the 6th gen front wheel fairing/cover/mudguard.

I could swear they bolt and swap right over but I don't have a definite answer. I should probably post in the 6th gen section and ask a member if they could measure bolt hole to bolt hole on the fairing but for now, I will see if I can get an answer here. I personally think that these 5th gens need just a little bit of tweaks to look even better. I like to make subtle changes on the exterior and what luck (bad luck) i killed my only wheel fairing so i need another. color match isnt priority.

 

Then the more colloquial term would be "front fender" lol! I can take a measurement of both if no one chimes in soon as I have a 5 and 6 Gen at my disposal. It would have to be later in the day as I have "Easter Sunday" plans with the wife this morning. The main difference between the two front ends would be the fork tube size and the way the brake lines crossover the back of the fender, not sure if either would be an issue if mounting holes are in the same location.

 

Okay. Everyone! We have made progress on this day, April 5th 2015.
That plastic thing covering the tire is formally called the "front fender". anyone use anything different, gets whipped with a brake hose! HAHA.
Hey that would be great if you could get a measurement.
Weather must be nice where you are. my entire family is in the general vicinity of Anaheim. My uncle used to be stationed at one of the firehouses out there and played hockey around there as well. I'm from Fullerton but now in illinois

 

OK, now that we clarified what it is you're looking for here is the info and some pics. First the bolt hole on the fender mount is 118mm center to center on the 6 Gen of the front mounting holes and 121mm center to center on the 5 Gen, so not a direct bolt on option. Also the rear mounting holes are different on the right fork leg for sure so those may not line up either. I forgot to measure the width of the fender but can go back out and get that for you as well. Red fender photos are of the 5 Gen. I hope this is helpful.

 

Hmm. a measly 3mm difference huh.
Now, what do you mean the rear mounting bolts are different? I am just going based on partzilla pics of the two years and all I see for rear holes are the reflectors. Are braking components such as prop. valve and junction block mounted to the fender as well?
I keep looking at the pics and I want to say it looks like the fender is bolted in just by the main bolts on the fork legs.
3mm... thats like an afternoon of fiberglass and bondo with some paint and polishing to graft it on.
Either way, I appreciate the pics and response. Just trying to make sure I get it all right before doing one or the other.

 

If you look at the 6 Gen photo (second photo down), the bolt above and to the right of the brake line connector block is the rear mounting bolt for the fender. There's one on each side. The 5 Gen doesn't have them, but since the front fender of the 6 Gen has the two cut outs on the front sides, this might be for additional support. Could be superfluous, but something to note.

 

i see what you mean there. that is an interesting idea for extra support. the 5th gen fairing had plenty of support but i could see adding rigidity to square things off. Its very helpful either way. Hmm. i should see if tire sizes stay the same as my next thought is whether theres ample clearance under the fairing assuming i use the 6th gen. but, seeing as the top of the fairing is a bit less curved, If I am going to fiberglass and redrill holes anyway i could drill to leave room for tire space and what not. Would be pretty cool.
Wonder if anyone is looking to get rid of a front fairing for a 5th and 6th gen too. I like to have both to compare, and swap out to get a feel.

 

Not sure how big of a hurry you're in but I can probably pull both fenders off and do a side by side shoot for you. Probably wouldn't be until Thursday when I'll have some time. Project due date this week, plus I'm suffering from vertigo, effects of eustachian tube dysfunction! So I'm pretty slow at the moment, hard to work when your head is spinning...

 

Tinkerin, your build thread is what I read for like an hour. Gave me more ideas and also a better push to graft the 6th gen fairing to the 5th gen.

OOTV, im not in too much of a hurry. I just fitted the plastics on this bike yesterday (easter) so really the only thing missing is the front fender. Also, its the first time in maybe 4 years since this bikes been covered in plastics aside from upper fairing and tail. I rode her naked last year. The chinese kit that came with the bike i found out is probably the cheapest one you can buy anywhere. The biggest fit issue was the gauge cluster surroundings. The holes were drilled to size but after paint they shrank so luckily i had a huge bolt kit that came with and I just did what i had to. Also had to hand drill two holes to tie the under sides together. Literally i used my fingers and palm to turn a bit and make holes in the bottom. My drill wouldnt fit under the bike even when on stands, HAHA. took FOREVAR!!! But from 4 feet away it looks damn good. Honestly, im plasti-dipping the bike for this year and next winter I will do paint and source a much better fit fairing kit. My bud has a high end paint gun and we spoke to plasti dip reps and they told us what nozzle and pressure to set the gun to so we can spray custom mix plasti dip in a hvlp gun. My bike will be first, then my buds car. No, it wont be the everyday matte look and black or something. its going to be firebelly orange and metallic flake then pearl clear. Trying for more class but not so loud. plus, i get to make my own graphics now with a stencil. though, my friend has a vinyl sticker printer too...

I found a 5th gen front fairing on ebay this evening which I might pounce on. needs a sanding and what not. Found an unpainted 6th gen fairing as well. Might get that too just to slowly do bodywork and get it working right. I am more than happy to make a build thread on that for the rest of the people interested.

I also found some cool rear wheel huggers. No, i wont be partaking in that for a bit. Still having too much fun with my new Delkevic SS70 highmount exhaust.