How to make a quick sale.

Common one out here when someone is selling one of these newer Enfields, these adds always start "I'm selling my beloved Enfield, I have had it for 8 months.........." do people honestly believe shit like this people put in adds

 

Saw a Kawasaki on CR once for something like 1200 pesos. Aboot 25 pix. The headers, pipes and mufflers were that much. The bike was in East Timor or Ogeron someplace like that.

 

http://ventura.craigslist.org/mcy/4863352280.html
Where's SOW? Just sayin no, falling over and can fill her up.
I kid

 

"Not running...but close" Yup...that's the best!

Another favorite is "no title....but easy to get one" Ya...all you need is a lawyer and more money than the bike is worth to maybe get one.

 

http://houston.craigslist.org/mcy/4863580379.html

We have a winner!!!



Edit to tack on another....

How about a pic of the bike sitting out in the rain? Plus a bunch of "stylized" pics!

http://houston.craigslist.org/mcy/4863442184.html

 

Can't say aboot the Honda. The Harley will go quick to some vintage collector. The bike is darned near a barn find.

 

Speaking of which, how about you put a pic of your avatar upside down? lol

 

Don't know about the US,but in South Africa unless a vehicle is officially scrapped/deregistered it continues to attract licence fees and penalties. Many a barn find is practically worthless as the back licence fees are way more than the vehicle would be worth.

 

Here the regulations will vary from state to state. We also have regulations on what are vintage and antique bikes. Sounds like the regs in SA are something the politicians pushed through to generate revenue more than anything else. I'm sure glad we don't allow our politicians to do that sort of thing..

If the bike is a racebike or is a model that can be turned into a racebike vintage or otherwise, do those regs still apply? Again here, bike need ownership titles (aka pinkslips) but no liscenses since they are not run on the street.

Better here than Italy.. Automated ticket issuing devices that issue citations if you are driving/riding on a roadway without the "right" license plate. The fine as I understand it, is aboot four hundred pesos American money. Mamma Mia!

 

Best deal I ever got the ad looked just like that. Turns out the old guy who had babied this Bonneville (that I still have) had to get a hip replacement and was physically unable to clean and display his bike properly. Most people would've been unimpressed by the photo in that ad, but I had a hunch and it worked out.

That's the exception and Craigslist ads are just generally hilarious a lot of the time. If you think the term "vintage" motorcycle gets stretched have a look at what some guys call "vintage" bicycles.

 

Definitely true about a money making scam. Even more crooked is that after about 4yrs without being licensed a vehicle is automatically taken off the system, yet when you try to re register it ALL the penalties are payable.
Not too sure about race bikes though my brothers MX bike was registered and he paid a (reduced) licence fee. Think that was due to the bike being financed, but if you get caught riding a dirt bike on the road, and the cop is in a bad mood he will impound it if you can't produce proper registration documents.
In SA, illegal number plates are a favorite source of revenue for the traffic dept. Was talking to a guy a while back and he said that apparently the fine for no number plate is less than for an illegal plate!

 

Here in California we have a PNO option (Planned Non Operation) which is a reduced fee that you would pay every year that you plan not to use your vehicle on the road. If I am not mistaken, when you plan on putting your vehicle back into "operation", you would then pay the current fee due. Although I have used the PNO option for one of my vehicles, I sold it while under PNO but I do not know what the new owner ended up paying to re-register it.

As an example of fees, I just received my renewal notice for my Duc (1995) and the fees due are $91, PNO is $20. There is a catch, if you do not pay your fee or the PNO, after a 90 day period, then PNO is no longer an option and you are obligated to pay the fees plus late fees. After 90 days license fees are $156 and no PNO option. Also, after a period of 10-90 days the fees go up, including the PNO. Example, after due date and up to 10 days late, fee is $112, PNO is $31. After 11-30 days, fee is $123/$37. After 31-90 days, fees are $156/$55

 

In SA we only have the option of de-registering/scrapping a vehicle, then it needs a police clearance and is registered as "built-up" when you put it back on the road. This is not altogether a bad thing (I bought my GS500 that way) as from the scrapping date, all fees are stopped. The catch is the fees must be up to date before it's scrapped. Penalties are 10% per month up to a maximum of 100%, basically double fees for every year that its not licenced.

 

Again, different rules and regs for different states. Generally racebikes and trials bikes do not need to be licensed. These are competition machines. Street legal enduro type bikes are usually have lights and accommodations for plates along with reasonable silencing. On and on...

Other competition bikes are ridden by little dudes who are not old enough to have drivers licenses.

Maybe it's best not to even bring this stuff up. The politicians may be watching and use the info to fuck us even more.

 

Really?!

Here in Ohio bikes and cars work the same. Price is about $25 higher for cars, not talking specialty plates. My bike cost $48 for plates every year. If I'm late after the registration date, birthday, it cost $20 late fee. Now if I don't get plates at all, bike off road 7 months, when I do get plates I pay for 1/2 year and don't get charged a late fee. Bike just stored 7 months.

Having to pay for any vehicle that's not being used for long periods of time or parts bike is just errrrr. Do you guys have to pay for "parts bike" also or are there exceptions? Then again I put model year plates on my GTO in 95 and haven't spent a cent on registrations since and it's the law..................

 

The general rule is any vehicle driven/ridden on public streets and highways (trailers included) needs to be registered and licensed, so if it's a parts bike you plan on striping to nothing, then no worries. However, if you ever plan to get it back on the street, then you'll probably pay a fee to catch up to when it was no longer registered. I'm sure there are "not to exceed" or some other regulation that might allow for a lesser fee, but I have never had to go that route. I know that even off-road vehicles that are ridden on public land, i.e. State OHV parks, need(ed) a "Green" sticker, but since I have not been off-roading in some time I could not tell you what the case is now but consider it a license plate in sticker form for an off-road vehicle. Back when I was off-roading a lot, I actually seen a few guys get kicked out of the park and fined for not having a green sticker. Usually it was the guys who raced motocross on closed circuits that this happened to, as they didn't need a green sticker to race on a track.

Wow, this thread changed course didn't it?

 

In some states vintage and antique for bikes and cars is defined. Not a clue aboot bicycles unless they have engines.. excluding early Whizzers.. Then again, having one of the original Honda San bicycles with an engine might be valuable enough to start my Ferrari collection.

 

California regs do not apply in other states. The laws for off roading in parks varies from park to park. Case in point: a state park vs a National park. The relationship to the gist of the thread is making a sale. If the title of the vehicle is missing or in question or bogus, then "no sale."

 

What happens if let's say I buy a bike from CA that's been setting years. I bring it out of CA state and go to title it in my state. Will there be any fees from the state of CA before I can transfer to my state? Kind of like having a lien on a title. So buyer beware is really a thing to do in CA seeing you can rack up some $$ in back fees. What's the seller responsibility to let you know or pay the fees?

 

This info should be in the Ohio DMV "book". At last look, the CA DMV laws and regs are on the State of California website. This opposed to anecdotal stuff or what some fucking clerk told your second cousin's boyfriend three years ago.

The main thing IMO is in this scenario on a "sitting" bike or car, is the CA title there? I would look in or buy a copy of the Ohio regs or talk to the paper shuffler at a bike dealership you can trust.