Hot Wires!!!!

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    Yet another electrical issue. I've already had this problem fixed... so i thought. The plug where the stator wires connect to the R/R wires has melted beyond recognition. This was thought to have been caused by water in the plug. Now its all straight wired together and the connectors i used to crimp the wires together has also melted. I replaced the fried portions of wire and taped them like mad. While riding home i checked them for heat and burned my hand. Common sense is telling me that should not have happened but, i haven't a clue as to why these wires are getting so hot. Please help me!!! :yield: :smash: :confused: :confused:
     


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    Wire hot means the wire/connection cannot handle the voltage running through it.

    1. Test the voltage i.e. stator.

    2. On 1st gen's this is an issue also (but we don't have the RR issues the newer ones do)

    The physical metal surface contact inside the connector is not large enough to handle the voltage. Ditto if you use wire nuts.

    The solution is to cut back the wires until good copper is found. Solder in a length of wire equal to what you cut out (or longer) and heat shrink the solder connections. Electrical tape will just melt. On first gen's this solution can cause a problem if you ever want to remove the RR so keep this in mind.
     


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    We just did a voltage test and am getting a 14.24 reading. I will replace entire wireing from stator connections back and hopefully this helps. Not sure on how to solder the wires. What materials do I need?
     


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    That youtube video is a little shallow for a beginner.
    If you're not familiar with the term tinning the iron you may have trouble early on in the process.
    I found this link that may give more needed detail.
    http://www.mediacollege.com/misc/solder/
    The other option is going to your local library (your tax dollars at work) and pick up a book and practice before jumping into your ride as your first work piece.
     


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    When my r/r was going bad, it got the wires pretty hot. Hot enough not only to melt the covering and the connector, but to catch fire. Keep in mind, r/r's can also be hit and miss, meaning they can work one second and not the next, at least in my experience. Rode my vfr from Sept to Jan with a bad r/r and up until the end of Dec, it never showed a sign of failure. I hate electrical issues.
     


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    Dixon:

    If you read Vman's past posts on this issue, I would replace both the RR and Stator.

    I know thats 200 plus dollars you probaby do not want to spend, but it is most likely the problem(s).

    BZ
     


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    A better way to join wires is with a crip connector. It's a molecular bond and is mil spec, far superior to soldering. If you go with soldering do not use sliver solder, but a combination of tin/lead, preferably with rosin core. Silver solder is more like welding than soldering and requires a torch. It's better suited to jewlery than wire. Just my opinion, YMMV.
     


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    vf750orig,
    You're right with the solder. What is a "Crip" connector? I've heard of a "Crimp" connector.
     


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