'98 800...how to steal?

Kidding...kind of. Bought a '98 800 from a police auction. I want to see if the thing will run prior to investing anything into it. Will this model require a resistor wired into the harness to bypass the ignition switch?

 

Wow...you guys can start these bikes with a hammer and a good screwdriver. I hope you all have invested in fantastic locks.

 

Ummm...... well to be honest it's even scarier than that Makenzie.

I can tell you exactly how to hot wire the bike with just a single 1 inch long piece of wire,no hammers or screw drivers necessary. :shocked:

 

Yeah but it requires a bit of advanced know-how. I approached with a blank and in less than a minute was riding away.

 

Yep,it's absolutely stupid easy to steal one of these things isn't it. :loco:

You'd think that bike manufacturers would at least try to make it a little bit harder wouldn't you. :noidea:

 

Its actually scarier than needing any wire, un hook the ignition switch and use a key to short the pins. Or you can just rip them out and twist them together. As for the steering lock. Well lets say I use a padlock in the brake disc for a reason. They are going to steal it, I just want them to work at it.

 

Just short the pins? Don't even need a resistor? I thought any "modern" bike would have some variety of theft deterrent. Hell my Ninja 500's required a 100ohm resistor soldered in to hotwire it.

 

Modern bije would use a rfid chip in the ignition switch, ours is fairly ummmm simple. I was told when my key broke inside I needed to drill out the security bolts and but a whole new tumber assembly. Having done some locksmithing at one time I just brought out my high security tools and disassembled the works and popped the broken piece out. If you knew how easy it is to get around the ignition on most bikes then it wouldnt surprise you of how many ride offs actually happen.

 

Would come in handy if I ever misplace my keys. I can disassemble/reassemble a computer blindfolded but would not want to "fry" the electrics on my bike.

 

Under us law (which you are under) I can not teach you how to bypass the security on your bike. I can tell you that your knowledge of personal computers is worthless when dealing with electrical engineering complications. (I know since I do both). Also, your service manual shows you everything, just have to know how to read what your looking at.

Also, never ask this kind of information. Youll just get billy on your case. Thank the motorcycle gods he's not found this yet.

 

Seems like only Kawis need a resistor to run, a good design.:sneakiness: i found out when my ZX-7 developed a faulty CDI.:tongue-new:

 

100 ohm resistor is basically nothing, unless the ecu uses a pair of wires and lookes for a range of resistance as part of a divider network or as part of a timer circuit. Hard to tell without the complete schematic and the ecu diagrams. 100 ohms (give or take) may also be the resistance of the key end to end, hyundia use to use a similar system at one point, short lived for obvious reasons.

 

My TL1000S actually had the same type of setup. I had to hotwire her when my key broke.

 

Be careful what you ask for

Kawi went full bore on their Concours 14 with KiPass. An RFID registered with the ECU. The complexity of the system, and multiple failure modes have left enough folks stranded that there are folks building wiring harness add-ons to bypass some of the more common failure modes. Every time I ride the C14, I wish for a simple straight forward ignition key.

 

Im thinking closer to the smart key system. If the registered key (s) are near the ignition then the ecu allows fuel and timing. Else nothing. It is based on rfid but not so stupid that it locks out valid keys. Besides bring your own rfid key and a registered ecu pair and you can brake the lock and ride away. About 5mins if your quick.

You could also use a user pass system that feeds the ecu with a run code (system pairing required) all you would need is to have a valid pass card/fob or other hid compatible device to feed the correct id in.


It could be worse, the car manufacturers are toying with finger print id systems.....try getting that to work right.