VFR vs super sport?

I have a 6th Gen and an '07 ZX6R which I ride predominantly on the track. My feeling on the differences is that while the VFR is definitely heavier, I don't think its any less maneuverable then the ZX6R. An SS might be like riding a razor blade at 70+mph, but practically you aren't often there. When it comes to low speed street handling, the top heaviness and low bars of the ZX offset the weight savings, in my opinion.

If you're looking for a flickable streetbike, my opinion is that a standard is the best way to go. My dad's 919 makes you feel like you could make a 180* turn without leaving your lane. So light with wide tall bars that gives you so much control. Its a lot like riding a big dirt bike.

Would a ZX be faster around a racetrack than the VFR or a 919? Almost definitely (although i've been left in the dust by a guy on a 919 regularly at the track). Even if your plan was strictly going out to the twisties, I don't think a SS/SB would make the best street bike. A VFR is an excellent compromise, although it would be nice if it weighed 50lbs less.

PS, that GSXR1000 with the adjustable rearsets and dirtbike bars looks pretty cool. If you combined that with a comfortable seat it could make a pretty cool package.

 

Renthal make the bars / kit specific for the Road bike, unlike his previous R1 the Gixxer required no fairing modifications to fit them. He needed to add a cross bar extra as the bar flexed a little without it and the riding position is similar to the current FZ1S.

Linky:
http://road.renthal.com/shop/road-products/road-handlebars/road-se-bars

 

Modern liter bikes are becoming so insane (read the new Kawi or the BMW S1000RR) that this comparison is really apples and oranges. A top of the line liter bike now is a track bike, pure and simple. The posters that that suggest one makes an honest assessment of where their rider skill lies are dead on, 'cause to be honest a S1000RR is so far beyond most people's riding ability, it's like throwing 25 grand into the toilet.

That being said, if I won the lottery you'd see a Daytona R in my driveway the following day...

 

I don't know what you guys are talking about. My VFR weighs 460 pounds ready to ride, has a fully adjustable suspension, USD forks, Radial brakes, about 115 wheel horse power, and runs 10.82 at 127.41 in the 1/4 mile. I have no problem stomping brand new super sports at the track. Plus with fully adjustable bars and rear sets, I can be as comfy as I want.

 

Put one of the riders of the super sport that you stomped and trade rides. I'm sure you would be stomping your own VFR.

 

On a 600, maybe, but I don't think so. My friend on his 07 675r is a very very capable rider, and it has a catless exhaust and slip-on, +3 aluminum rear renthal 520 sprocket kit, air filter, no passenger pegs and reflashed ecu. My friend on his 2012 CBR1000rr, catless slip-on, 520 -1/+1 sprockets, power commander and dyno tuned 165 whp; yes you are 100% totally correct lol, he needs some more practice. He was running 10.85 at 145 mph by the end of the night.

 

Put me on the right Harley and I'm going hunting for those MotoGP pukes. Buncha fags IMO.

 

Actually modern Litre bikes are unbelievably capable these days, a riding buddy has an S1000rr HP4 and has no problems doing 450miles per day on our 4 day tours of our Alpine twisties.

When I've ridden it have found it easy to ride and with it's intelligent suspension was more comfortable than I'd expected on our iffy road surfaces with steering, acceleration and braking nearly telepathic.

You don't need to be a riding god to ride these things briskly just competent and disciplined enough not to abuse their 200hp.

 

That was my problem, I had to sell my CBR1000 because, I'm weak. Weak, weak, weak! I felt myself wanting to ride like a spoiled 20 yr old rich kid and not the mid 40's pleasantly plump guy that I am.

 

OMG!! They've sold The Alps to the Australians. What is next, the Winter Olympics 2018 in July?

 

The NSW / Vic Alps in Winter has more snow cover than Switzerland and in Summer / early Fall you can point your bike in any direction and have good day. Mind our highest mountain is only 8400 ft so may not seem all that Alpine compared to some other countries.

The best thing if you chose to ride mid week in non school holiday times it is possible to ride over 30 minutes between towns with meaning and not see a car let alone a smoky.

 

I love my viffer, but I would like to also own a ZX6R (newer one) or GSXR750. Have the Viffer for long trips and highway cruising and the sport bike for flicking around town.

 

That tells me that you have a new life insurance policy that you don't know about LOL

Just kidding I went through the SS phase in my 20's just like it seems every rider does. I was commuting from Phx down to Ft. Huachuca every day and often at speeds well over double the limit on my liter ninja. Then in my 30's the wife bought me a 98 Valk for my birthday absolutely loved that bike. And to this day if I ever find the SOB that stole it I will guarantee that they will never find his body.
After that and the birth of my son I was without 2 wheel joy for 11yrs. Fast forward to this summer and I was finally to a point where I personally could justify having a bike again. I immediately gravitated back to the SS and took as many as I could for rides. Everything from the CBR100RR to the Duc Diavel and in-between. Also looked at the F6B, the ST1300, the BMWK1200,
I stayed away from Harleys, and the other paint shaker V-Twins (just not my thing) Eventually I settled on the 6th Gen in Silver. It checked 98% of the boxes for me.

Late this summer I had the itch to look at something to fill the last 2% of the boxes. And looked at the ZX-14r after about 150mile I came to realize that I simply cannot own that bike. I found that I am older though some would say no wiser and I simply do not have the self-control to ride that bike responsibly on the streets.

 

Much of Washington and Oregon are/is that way. Mid-week there is a loop of just a bit over 100 miles I ride (in our Summer) with sometimes one or two cars. Just North of Seattle there are three mountain passes that can have traffic on the weekends but nearly void of same during the week.

Snow-wise, there are roads that do not open until July sometimes and way uphill in Northern California there are places where the snow never melts.

I am liking that "riding with meaning".

One of the great rides in Washington is Highway 20 the major portion of which is adjacent to the Canadian Border.. Some of the area is officially listed as unexplored wilderness and the "next gas" signs are to be believed.

 

I have owned many middleweights. In 08 I got a CBR 1kr. I recently got rid of it for a 13 CBR 600 RR. The 1kr is a great bike but like some have stated its a lot for the street. It doesn't handle as well as the 600s do either. I'm 42 & I don't find them uncomfortable till after about 3 hours. I also just got interested in the street fighter segment & bought an Aprilia Tuono V4R. It's basically an RSV4 with a more street able power delivery, handle bars & upright riding position. I am interested in adding the VFR to the stable to bring the long haul & two up capabilities that my garage is currently lacking. Classes are starting to get a little muddled up with 675 & 800cc bikes being introduced. Although allowing more choices. You'd be giving up the capabilities of the VFR I previously mentioned but if those aren't high on your list @ this point in your life you wouldn't be making a mistake to look around @ a different ride. Most likely you'll be back to the VFR later in life though.

 

Good stuff gentlemen. Again, I really appreciate your input. All seems like smart perspective. 'Think I will look into upgrades on the VFR. DfnsMn69, you said it right; 2%. I would still like to test ride one of the new liter SS (if nothing else, to confirm my lack of discipline as well). Thanks fellas.