Pics Yamaha R1 Front End On My 2007

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  1. CandyRedRC46

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    yeah lesson learned. shouldn't have trusted that guy.
     
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    It still may be worth dropping the spring rate.
     
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    I don't think that is the problem. At least I wont find out for sure until after I get them assembled correctly. Then I will reevaluate.
     
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    Good catch!
    Thank god the brake lines kept the sliders in when you wheelied!

    I tend to agree with mello dude with respect to the spring rates etc but I'm sure you will find them much more ridable after they are assembled properly. You can do the full suspension tune after you find a suitable rear shock.
     
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    and all shops are closed up for the holidays. great lol
     
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    I tried a PM, but it said your inbox was full.

    Paypal works.
     
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    holy crap!


    Glad you didn't find this stuff out the hard way! justifies my own paranoia... completely tear down any used parts/bikes and go thru them myself before I will ride it. My riding buddies think I have trust issues. They're right.
     
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    You could send the job UPS to Jamie Daugherty - He's the expert here on Suspension parts, could also get you a shock for not a lot of bucks. This is his slow season and just guessing he could turn it around quickly. It might be worth it to send him a PM.

    - On spring rate, mostly I was referring to that for your weight, 1.0 is pretty darn stiff.
     
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    I just got off of the phone with the shop that has my forks. They are saying that either the forks have been shortened or the springs in them are too long. They said that there was no way that they could have ever been assembled properly. They said the springs were binding at full compression and they asked me for permission to cut the spacers down 1.5 inches. wow this is getting better by the day lol
     
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    Hey sorry. I just cleared out my message folder and pm'd you back.
     
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    Unbelievable!
     
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    Nice mod! Glad things worked out alright with the improper assembly.
     
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    lol uh we'll see... I hopefully will be picking up the forks at 1pm tomorrow. I should have everything buttoned up by tomorrow night. Hopefully I don't wind up with shortened forks or any other weird problems.
     
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    Well had to pick up my unassembled forks at 1pm today. The shop claimed that the forks were shortened, damping rods weren't oem and a bunch of other bs incompetent stuff that didn't make sense, but luckily they couldn't charge me anything since they couldn't do anything with them, but waste my time. So at about 2pm today me and my buddy pulled the forks apart to investigate. Turns out that since they cut the spacers that had a washer retaining tip on them, the washer in between the spacer and spring was cocked off center and catching on the inside of the forks limiting travel to about an inch and locking them up, giving them the feel of a shortened damping rod with long spring and slider ruined fork. We tried carefully assembling them with out the washer, and BINGO!!! Everything is A-OKAY! So we cut the other spacer identically to the one the shop cut, ditched the washer and topped the forks up with fluid. Everything works great! We threw the forks on the bike, went for a lap around orlando and the front end feels stupendous! No front end dive under hard braking with the rear tire off the ground and setting the front tire back on the ground after a big clutch up now feels just like butter!

    The factory Yamaha R1 springs are .90 kg/mm and I have 1.0 kg/mm racetecs in there now. I am about average weight and my vfr is a little heavier than the R1. Long story short, the front end feels excellent, so I am probably going to keep these springs. The bad news is that the right hand fork is weeping slightly due to us tearing them down and reassembling so many times, which was really to be expected, but hey I didn't have to pay some incompetent grease monkeys to play with my forks all day so that's a plus. So I am going to go ahead and order the yamaha specific tools for the fork job, order some new seals, spacers, washers and fluid and do it all over again when it gets here, just this time around it will be much easier since I will know what I am doing now and I will have the appropriate tools.
     
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    WOW Candy Red.

    I'm sooooo glad your front end came together the way it did, reading how it was only held on by brake lines, the dampeners lose, half the oil etc.

    I say:
    Buy a lotto ticket.
    Kiss the one that makes you smile the most,
    AND..... ALWAYS CHECK WHAT YOU BUY!
    ESPECIALLY AFTER YOU'VE BOUGHT IT!

    WHeww, Could have been a lot worse!

    So... could you please post up some pics of the finished product, specificly the from the riders position, Handle bars, gauges, top tripple... And there's no rubbing? in one pic, the front wheel looks very close to the lower fairings.

    Thanks

    Paul.
     
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    Lol thanks. Okay I'll go take a few shots now. I still need a mount for the brake fluid reservoir, as the one on there now is temporary and just barely gets the job done. I am open to ideas on this. The clipons and levers will just barely miss the tank and fairings, but it's tight. The clutch and brake and throttle lines do make contact with the lower black gauge surround at full lock, but it's acceptable. The upper triple tree is good. The lower triple tree rubs on the inner fairings a little, but is acceptable. The oil cooler mounts needed to be bent down and the cooler itself needed to be moved forward and own a little. The top of the front fender did make contact with the bottom of the oil cooler after a hard landing of a big clutch up, but that was mainly due to the complete lack of damping allowing a nasty bottom out. I have put about a hundred miles on the bike since correctly assembling the fork and done a few big clutch ups and the bike now feels like butter when setting the front wheel back down. The fender looks to have adequate clearance now and is no longer making contact with the oil cooler.
     
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    Looks really good Cany Red.

    So this is a 2005 R1 Front end?

    The Left handle bar clamp VS the right handle bar clamp.... One faces 12-Oclock the other 6... Doesn't that make you nuts?
     
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    I saw a post somewhere about using a thin plastic shim to push in between fork and seal to dislodge any dirt before re-placing seal, sounded logical.
     
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