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biker gang attacks SUV

Discussion in 'Anything Goes' started by reg71, Oct 1, 2013.

  1. GreyVF750F

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    If you notice at the very beginning of the vid that traffic is stopped because of all these bikes. Yes they (bikers) were in the wrong. Though the guy in the Rover just gunned it and ran over a couple of bikes with riders on them. Then later after the chase starts is when one bike slows in front of the RR and gets hit/bumped.

    I agree the bikers were creating havoc on the express way and they were definitely in the wrong. Yes they are A-Holes but that is no reason for the guy in the RR just to run them over. The guy lives in NY city, that right there is enough to be scared about! Not being stuck on the expressway with bikes all around.

    It doesn't matter what race the bikers are. Yes I saw some other vids of the bikers bad behavior and think it's terrible and they should be dealt with by the law. But to just run someone over because they are blocked in traffic by these hooligans doesn't give him (RR guy) the right to do what he did. Didn't hear about anybody else doing that or being that scared. JMO
     


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    This was posted on another forum and is supposedly from the Boston Globe but their site restricts access to the full article so I couldn't verify it.


    New York Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said the motorcyclists were part of a loosely organized group who planned to drive into the heart of the city as they had done last year, effectively paralyzing Times Square, The New York Times reported. Kelly said his department was on alert this year and stopped motorcyclists throughout the city before they could grow into a large throng.

    At the Lawrence house where Mieses lives, a woman who answered the door and identified herself as his sister-in-law said, “He’s going to make it.”

    Though Mieses is a Massachusetts resident, he has never had a valid Massachusetts driver’s license for a passenger vehicle and has never applied for a motorcycle license, the Registry of Motor Vehicles said.

    Registry records show that Mieses applied for a learner’s permit in 1999 and 2000, but that he never obtained a full license because he failed to pay fines imposed after he was ticketed for speeding in Lawrence in 1999. His last contact with the Registry was in 2001, when he obtained an identification card, registry records show.

    Since 1999, he has been ticketed by police 16 times, in Lawrence, Methuen, Roxbury, Andover, and New Hampshire, according to registry records.

    In June, the Registry notified the National Driver Register that Mieses was a habitual traffic offender whose right to drive in Massachusetts was revoked until 2017, records show.
     


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    This may be true but he is " an up and coming rapper" which ought to count for something.
     


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    Question answered in the below ABC News link, he was injured AFTER the Gixxer brake checked the SUV to force him and all other vehicles on the road into stopping so they could do their Stunts ?

    What an unnecessary mess this whole event was with many lives changed and one riders forever. It seems from the belows relatively nonjudgmental News link the riders were stopping all cars on that bit of road so they could do their stunts in safety, the SUV driver obviously freaked out when the riders started hitting his car and slashing his tires in retaliation for hitting the Gixxer riders rear tire who has also rightly been arrested for being the cause.

    They say a disaster is usually never just one thing sadly it seems true in this case, hopefully the Stunters in these rides learn a lesson to become a bit smarter, safer and courteous to other road users in the future choosing to do their stunts on closed to the public tracks or even better learn to actually enjoy real riding with twisties and discover the joys of touring the country.

    NYC Motorcycle Attack: Biker's Wife Says He Won't Walk Again - ABC News
     


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    How many of you when you read the title to this thread thought it was about a bunch of HarleyDoods?
     
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    I can see some of both sides of this but am surprised by how many of you side with the SUV; I hear ‘don’t make assumptions’ but you cannot even comment on this without making assumptions. I would not have run over a biker in fear if I was driving; you may say that is easy to say but it would not happen. Apparently most of you would let your fear rule your actions. By definition that is cowardly is it not?
     


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    Lets see...the dude who got arrested for reckless endangerment , reckless disregard for the rights of others or reckless driving, by brake checking the driver of the SUV so his buds could own the roadway makes this racist. Seems like the dude in the SUV along with his wife and small child who got his tires slashed and subsequently beaten and cut by yes, several black dudes could be a minority here too. Not in China though. Lots of Chinese guys in China or so they say. Never been there and OH SHIT I wasn't in NYC either.

    Maybe the Chinese guy and his family will move to Texas where he can, if this happens again, just blow the bad guy's shit away.
     


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    I agree, waaay too many of those Chinese dudes driving SUVs anyway. Playing Devils advocate takes more skill.
     


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    I can not conscientiously answer this..... The answer would only be made off of an assumption.
     


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    PHACKING IDIOTS pseudo-bikers that spread out bad image to all of us, I don't know what happened before, but it seems that it was no blood or contact before, the second 30 shows how THAT A.S.S.H.O.L.E. brake in front of the SUV, may be the asian did the rear hit voluntary or involuntary, and is in-admissible he didn't stop and talk, helping the idiot, but panic is panic, when you have 150 apes running towards around your family, I don't know what ? do.

    When the idiots align in the universe of traffic everything can happen.

    "The algorithm used to distribute uniformly the idiots in this planet is so powerful that ensures you to meet one or two everyday"

    Some times they meet each other... these things simply happen.

    Y never ride with 200 other bikes, that's not to enjoy the bike, is to enjoy testosterone. Bike is FREEDOM, not to be forced to the other's will.

    I SAID!!
     


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    Good points; I am being harsh and should hold my thoughts. In 1970 I was attacked by a group of jerks in a 1961 Chevy when I was riding my near new Honda 750 and was pelted by these clowns with eggs and rocks as they hung out the windows, an indiscriminate act of random violence. I remember then laughing as I lost control and went into a stone wall at the side of the road. I broke my left leg and suffered other injuries. My CB750K0 was wrecked. I always take the bikers side when any assumptions are required; I have seen too many asshole drivers. I have kids and Grand kids, I also think I understand fear, at least better that I did 40years ago. This is one sad tale; I do not mean to come raw with any of you so know that. JIM
     


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    That is an abuse of Logic leading to a deliberately incorrect conclusion.

    While my full sympathy still goes to the crippled rider and his family the responsibility of the tragedy clearly rests with the Stunters, the cage drivers did not ask to be abused, hit and harassed. This incident has even made Prime time news here, when it initially kicked off from the new clips I found myself defending their actions with " these are not Outlaws, most bikers are reasonable people so there must have been something the SUV driver did earlier off camera to spark them off " , yes that was an assumption that led me to defend their actions early on to others especially when it was learnt a rider had been run over by the SUV.

    That made sense to me, my incomplete logic suggested the driver must have hit a rider then did a runner with his fellow riders trying desperately to flag the SUV down. This would then have made the SUV driver culpable and responsible for the actions that followed, however this is not what has happened and it is has become clear these idiot stunters tried to hijack the road for their own amusement caused a minor collision then unnecessarily escalating the situation by over retaliating with a mob, the video does show the SUV driver had stopped for a time before the cage driver obviously became fearful for his family was frightened into a panicked flight by them first trapping him without exit, bashing his car and slashing his tires.

    The driver gets sympathy from most not because he was undisciplined in his panic ( ok so most rider that are cages drivers probably would have handled themselves better ) but because this situation was not of his making, an empathy of how you'd feel if it was your family in their place being attacked, if its you or them its better it's them and it's not as if there are no precedents of hooligan gangs randomly beating innocent people to death therefore making his actions understandable.
     


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    Well you say all that but the question is what ethnic group those jerks belonged to, and of course their political persuasion, Jimtt
     


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    "Undisciplined in his panic" I'm using that phrase every chance I get. Thank you John451
     
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    No you should not. So long as your response is without hatred, they should be expressed. Some may not agree with your opinion. Many disagree with me (they are all wrong BTW). You went on to say you yourself were the target of a group of thugs who happened to be in a cage and not on a bike so I am sure you can see some of the points raised here.

    Based solely on what I saw in the video, and like what has been mentioned here many times, these self centered bikers were out for free for all riding on public roads at the expense of others. That spells trouble and they found it.

    All that needed to be done here, is one action be taken out of this equation and everything may have ended different. It is too bad a couple of these bikers were hurt, and agreeably, badly. But they could have taken an action, or refused to take an action that would have prevented this from happening. So could the SUV driver, but again based on what I saw, he found himself caught in the middle of this crap.

    Time to unsubscribe. I have work to do on my bike that is far more interesting and productive.
     


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    Fox News link has been posted. Full circle jerk now official.
     


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    What? what does that have to do with this?

    On anouther point: It is ironic that we are talking about our image when the fear of bikers goes WAY BACK, and I would say most of the blame for that can be parked at Media’s door step. Hells Angels 69, Cycle Savages, and onand on ( do you remember them?). Bikers do not have a great image with a lot of people and never will. Perhaps if the SUV driver was not so driven by fear this might not have happened. If you ride a motorcycles you know this; there will always be young men who given cycling a bad name; I did back when I was a Rake Hell of the highest order and I paid the price more than once. It is the nature of things.
     


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