6th gen won't turn on. Battery is fully charged.

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    So yesterday like the bonehead I am, I left my key in my bike with it in the on position while I was at work. Needless to say my battery died. I called CAA(Canadian equivalent of AAA), the guy that came to boost it had never boosted a bike before. The bike wouldn't turn over. I didn't feel comfortable trying to bump start it as I've never done it before. I then got the bike towed home, pulled my battery and charged it over night. This morning my charger is telling me that the battery is now fully charged, so I popped it in my bike an nothing happened. It's like there is still no power at all. Tried bumping it and nothing.

    Any ideas what the problem might be?
     


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    Do the headlights and display come on with the key turned on?


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    Nope. Nothing comes on at all. It's like there is no power at all even though the battery is fully charged now.
     


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    When you turn the key to ignition on, can you hear the usual fuel pump priming noise? If not then check all the fuses including the main 30amp one by the battery.

    I can't make out from your description if they just carried the bike home on their truck or if they first tried to start the bike by hooking it to a 12 volt battery? The key point being, it is possible to boost start a bike, but you MUST do it right or you may inflict expensive damage on the bike.

    As your bike has a stator, the engine of the boost vehicle, must NEVER be running at any stage - i.e. when they connect it or when they attempt to start the bike, you must simply draw on the un-aided battery in the other vehicle. If their engine was running there is a good chance its killed the main and ignition fuses and quite possibly the RR as well. Read this - Jump Starting a Bike

    Some of this may sound familiar..
    http://vfrworld.com/forums/6th-gene...r-battery-boosted-parking-lot.html#post411442

    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.



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    The bike had zero power at all before I called CAA. My old battery died over the winter, but it did make a clicking sound when i tried to start the bike, this time there was nothing at all.

    CAA first tried to boost it from one of those 12v booster packs. When they did this, headlights and dash flickered and bike sounded like it was trying to start but wouldnt turn over. After this, they called the truck.
     


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    +1 for the 30A fuse
    If you can get your battery tested at your local auto part store to insure it is hold and get a multimeter to check to make sure the battery is at least 12.4V Seen the bike have no light or power at all I would check the battery connector and fuse. Good luck
     


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    I know this sounds stupid, but is your run switch in the on position?

    Don't ask me why I ask.
     


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    Sorry to ask a silly question, but have you checked to make sure the kill switch is turned on?
     


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    Looks like I'm not the only one who thought of this... ;-)
     


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    OK if they just used a 12 volt battery pack it should not have done any damage. However if you deep drained your battery it still may be toast. What volts was it showing at rest after you took it off charge - hopefully well over 12.5? Check those fuses.

    (oh and when you try another start make sure the bike safety interlocks are not causing issues - bike out of gear - clutch in - kill switch to run). Got caught by that one too :redface:




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    I will check out the fuse tonight when I get home.

    It's not the kill switch. I haven't made that mistake in a few years. :p
     


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    Not sure, just charged it using a battery tender jr. doesn't tell me, only has a single indicator light.
     


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    I did hear of someone's kill switch going bad before but I think that's really rare.
     


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    Bike in neutral while side stand down? Similarly easy mistake like the kill switch.
     


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    By gawd, man, you own a Honda motorcycle and NO multimeter ???? Trickle charger are like NA beer, don't do the job proppaly. Best chargers are 1 amp.
     


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    Sounds like you need a multimeter (a $20 meter should be ok for the vast majority of jobs) and a wiring diagram. I even have a 40MHz 100MSa/s USB oscilloscope for those really tricky jobs, but most people wouldn't know how to use something like that... ;-)
     


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    I was chatting with a limo driver that rides while I was sitting around waiting for the flatbed. He told me when boosting put the side stand up. Which we didn't know, nor aware of. So you should put the stand up and bike in gear then?
     


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    I also picked up a multimeter this morning. I'm getting a reading of 4.08v on the battery. Does this mean that it's likely toast since the battery tender said it was fully charged?

    I checked the 30amp fuse last night. It looked okay, but I bought a new one to be safe.
     


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    Maybe you mis-understood the way I posted this. If your bike is parked in gear, it will not turn over. You need to put it into neutral, or squeeze the clutch while you turn it over. Many times I park leaving the bike in gear if it is parked on unlevel ground and have initially tried to start the bike before placing into neutral.
     


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    Lol. I may not be very mechanically inclined, but I'm not that new to riding. :p

    I thought you were talking about when boosting the bike.
     


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