Yes, I un-did it.

I've never been shy with making a little noise but.....I missed the quiet power of the new VFR after just a few short weeks with the Werkes slip on.
So I re-installed the larger and heavier stock pipe.

There is no doubt that the look of the Werkes really cleaned up the bike and really showed off the single sided swing arm, but I could not get over the 'noise' it was now making.
I even tried the db killer but it just didn't sound right.

I am again humbled by the awesome yet stealthy power of this bike with little modification.

I understand a lot of you out there absolutely hate the stock pipe and I respect that, but I'm going to stick with stock (at least until I have the guts to order a DAM).

 

I can understand you not wanting to throw more money at bad money, but I have followed several VFRs that have the Staintunes on them. They sure sound sweet and are not really noisy at all. Wished I had invested in a pair of those when my bike was newer and I was employed but with the bike being as high mileage as it is, and me being on fixed income now, that is probably a poor decision to undertake for me right now.

Good for you to realize you were making too much noise and doing something about it.

 

There are some things that can be done to the stock pipe. Disconnect the servo cable at the servo valve. Remove the funky triangle thingie that covers the port that opens with the servo. Very easy to do by removing the end cover and then the triangle thingie. Cleans the sound up slightly and slightly makes it louder under 5000rpm. OMG I didn't do any dyno tests, but I did enjoy the sound a little bit better, and I could bide my time until I got a new can. The werkes was not on the list. It takes less then 10 minutes to do everything and 10 minutes to reverse it if necessary. Plus mine was a dct. What if I lost a ft-lb or 1.5. Its not for racing.otstir:

Bill

 

Fortunately this isn't Hayabusaworld, so I think most of the members here can appreciate your position that it was just too loud for your liking. I really didn't mind the look of the stock can. I thought it went well with the lines of the bike, which is of course a very subjective thing. But the hooligan in me just needed a little more bark from the bike and unhitching the servo cable just wasn't enough for me. I'm not sorry I went with the GPR can. I can make it bark went I want to, but most of the time it's just a noticeable grumble. Too quiet with the db killer installed. The pipe has definitely gotten a little louder with miles, but still not offensive IMO, and I live in a pretty quiet neighborhood. I've owned louder pipes, but I'm glad this isn't one of them. The DAM is a right sweet looking pipe and was high on my list, just too rich for my blood. Kudos to you for thinking about those around you who have to listen to it. That my friend, is just responsible motorcycling.

 

disconnecting the servo cable made a nice difference in trhe sound, i didn't like how it would open and close a lot at highway speed... now i'm running the Akropovic slip on with the insert in...great sound, not too loud and looks great

 

I don't much care for more noise, even though I have really taken a liking to this rather unique V4 exhaust note. Neither do I care for more power, as the 1200 has more than enough for what I need. The looks of the stock can is a bit odd, but for me, the main advantage is the weigh savings. Like most stock cans, this one weighs a metric ton.

 

The stock can on a 1200 is butt ugly and reminiscent of those fishtail mufflers on certain American and Brit rides of yesteryear. A quick fix for the cosmetic aspect is to paint it black.

 

I thought the Akropovic used the servo cable. If so does it still change the sound at 5-6 krpm?

 

akro does but i never hooked it up

 

Speaking of DAM, I must thank all you owners for buying their can. I see it's now CE-approved and I know that takes an investment. I must say I still like the look of my Ti Remus better but it fills me with pride that this small Belgian company makes such an impact nowadays. They didn't use to make many, if any, CE-approved cans and unless memory fails, the can wasn't CE-approved yet when I bought my Remus in '10.

Just to rub some salt in it, a DAM can would now cost me about $100 less than I paid for my Remus.

You might ask yerselves: would you buy a DAM now, given the choice?
My answer would be: yes.
If it sounds similar to my Remus. It is quite short. I don't want loud on a V4.

I would pay them (another) visit first though, just to customize the can a bit. They've always been known for custom work.

Dave, quiet neighborhood, sorry had to laugh. Maybe your neighbors have a different opinion. :smile:

 

My Leo with the db killer removed is not obscene, in fact it's perfect. Just loud enough to hear on brisk throttle application but still relatively quiet, at least compared to my previous exhaust on many bikes. I know it can't be obscene loud because I'll ride by bystanders and they don't even look. I like the fact that it comes with 2 straps to mount it low or high. If I were doing it again I'd look at the MIVV real hard. Looks outstanding and best looking pipe on the 12.

 

if you do hook the cable up on the Akro it will still change the sound in the same manner as it is controlled by the ECU

 

Aside from sound, I originally chose the Werkes because of its size. Being the shortest meant showing off the open wheel. In hind sight, I should have just coughed up a couple more bucks and ordered the DAM.

The db killer on the Werkes rattled like a cheap can....there was an additional $40 wasted.

Some of the other pipes look great but extend too long over the wheel for my taste.

Yes. A thorough comparison on after market cans for the big VFR would have helped me.

One last thing....I have an 06 VFR with TBR cans which gives it an awesome growl. I dare say it sounds better than the 1200 but obviously without the power.

 

A 90 degree is always going to sound better.