DuPont Chain Saver

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  1. 34468 Randy

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    Good news Canucks.

    Previously I had to travel down to Washington State to get DuPont Chain Saver lube as it was not available here in BC. Well, low an behold, I was in Canadian Tire of all places and what was that I saw on the shelf? DuPont Motorcycle Chain De-greaser and DuPont Chain Saver lube. I have been using this lube for a couple years now and it works really well. As good as any of the others around. Used to use PJ1 all the time and was happy with the performance of that too, but it did make one hell of a mess with all the fling off from that. This is what gives the DuPont stuff the lead over the others for me. My rear wheel does not get covered in black shit all the time.

    The story here is, if you want this stuff, it is now available in Canada

    DuPont Chain Saver Lubricant From Canadian Tire - YouTube

    Appears it is also available at Lowe's in Canada but we only have one of those in BC, and I guess I never thought of looking at a home improvement centre for motorcycle chain lube. BTW, I think the claim that the chain will last 5 times longer is a bit of a stretch unless you are comparing the DuPont chain to a chain where nothing is used ever.
     


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    I was interested until I heard the word "wax." I dont do any kind of chain wax.
     


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    Not to be argumentative, but what is your concern about wax? I used Chain Saver almost exclusively on my last chain and it treated me very well. Unfortunately I did not record the mileage when I put my last chain on but I think it was put on in the fall of 2011. So it went through about 7 months of commuting 100 miles a day mostly in the rain and on roads heavily treated with Salt Brine. Then it took me on a 7,000 mile, 5 week tour through the Pacific south west in the spring of 2012, and admittedly very casual riding for the most part since.
     


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    Personal taste, yeah I'm a whackjob, I just dislike any kind of chain wax. - Not saying the Dupont product is bad or anything.
    They do have a dry film Teflon in a blue can that's interesting.

    For the moment, I' m a drunken creature of habit, and I use the ProHonda dry film moly teflon blend. Proly been 14 years worth.

    :cool:
     


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    Bel-Ray Blu-Tac is the best stuff on the market.
     


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    Some Walmarts have the Dupont products. Online at Amazon too. Best used IMO, with the accompanying chain cleaner.
     


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    Randy I've been using it for over two years also. The stuff works great and doesn't collect dirt like grease does and make a mess. Wax is a very good lubricant/film for chains. Back in the old days of endurance racing (pre-O-ring) we would use solid roller chains and soak them in parafin wax on the stove. Chains lasted a lot longer with less adjustments during the races.

    I started using the Dupont wax with a new chain and sprockets. To early to tell about longevity, but so far so good no abnormal wear and my rear wheel/sprocket is a lot cleaner.
     


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    Excellent product! I gave up on bel-ray for chain maintenance, still a great company, gawd forgive me...
     


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    I remember the olden days unfortunately. I can remember crank starting a 59 Morris Oxford in -35 Winnipeg weather. I was going through a chain every 1 1/2 years or so due to mileage but now I expect to get a few years out of mine.

    Badbilly, That is where I got you stuff in Washington. I remember you saying before that is where you could get it so that is where I went. But alas, we Canadians do eventually get it and this stuff now available here at Crappy Tire.

    And Mellow Dude,

    That dry Teflon lube sounds interesting. When I run out of what I have, I may give that a try. I really hate all that fling off shit. I don't mind washing vehicles but when I do wash, it is usually a whole afternoon affair washing the bike, wife's car and the acres of surface on the battleship HMCS GMC Sierra. A whole day if I have the RV to do as well.
     


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    Randy,

    Some of the Wallymarts do not have the DuPont stuff. The one near my place in Ogeron no gots.. The easy way is to go online to Amazon unless you guys there in the frozen el norte have to pay those VAT taxes..


    Rear wheel cleanup can be fairly easy. Walmart and Costco both have concentrated cleaning liquids. Same damn thing (almost) as something like Formula 409 except a gallon of the concentrate is about 6-7 bucks in real American money ;)

    Undiluted it will remove grease from concrete or asphalt and can be diluted with water up to 90+% and used as a carwash. I dilute the stuff 50% and put it in a spraybottle. Hosing down the rear wheel with water first is optional. Squirt some of the solution on and let it sit a couple of minutes then scub away with an old paint brush with synthetic bristles. Then hose it off. I wash my bikes on the centerstands and to dry the rear wheels, I fire the bike up and put it in first cog at low rpm.. Science in action.. En Espanol, "retrocentrifugar." I don't know what it is in the Canadian language.. ;)
     


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    +1 on the Dupont teflon Chain-Saver! Spray it on and let it dry overnight, virtually no sling off.
     


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    Thx Randee,

    Our ACE hardeware stores carry it. I use the blue can teflon stuff tho. ACE also caries monkey butt powder. A must for those of us in the humid region of the continent. Good for the Bo Zac.
     


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    mark it 8, dude
    i cant find the original (ref webbikeworld.com article) dupont blue cans anymore, and only have 1 left in the garage.
    so ive been looking for a new go-to chain lube, and found that...

    "original bike sprits" that made the super-duper honda spray polish (now sold under their own name from atlanta)
    is now making a chain lube. my local shop dude got us a couple of cans from them for evaluation.
    if its ANYWHERE near as good as their polish, it will be great (maybe even as good as the OLD dupont blue formula)
     


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    The Dupont Chain Saver is the best chain lube I have used on any bike, ever. Hands down.

    Goes on clear, dries to a slightly waxy film. If you give it an hour or so to dry, there is NO fling. None. It also seems to REPEL dirt, as my chain stays clean between applications (and I live on a dirt road).

    Motorex stuff was absolute garbage, and made a HUGE mess - I swear more of it ended up on the wheel and bodywork than stayed on the chain. Bel-Ray (two different kinds) seemed to attract more dirt than anything, and I hated having a white goop all over a nice gold chain. I used Maxima Chain Wax for a while on my Yamaha, but it also suffered from fling, and required frequent re-application.

    I've never tried PJ1 or Motul products, but I'm so in love with the Dupont stuff that I have no reason to switch.
     


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    The DuPont chain cleaning formula will clean off all the old wax or whatever is on the chain from before.

    Great tip on letting the lubricant dry for awhile..

    The problem with many of the "other" brands of chain lubricants is not so much that they don't work. The PITA is when they accumulate on the rear wheel picking up road dirt and dust from the brake pucks.

    Yes, some of us use the rear brakes when we are not playing Ricky Racer or Calvin the Corner Carver.
     


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    'scuseame, but where's any proof that the stuff is any better than the simple 80/90 wt gear oil the FSM recommends. Riders who care aBOut the environment, toxic waste, superfund cleanup sites boycott DuPont products, a well-documented corporate polluter.

    Here's the hard data documenting dozens of DuPont criminal activities:

    http://www.corporatewatch.org/?lid=205
     
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    To single out DuPont as being a huge corporate super polluter is being totally absurd. They, by no means are the only big business who are guilty of this. I assume you are referring to that major chemical disaster in India a couple decades ago. Though DuPont may be the owners of that plant, it was being run by people and governments who do not care about the environment, or their own people's safety and welfare. These same societies allow near slave labour to produce the items we here in North America especially, want to buy at as cheap a price as possible. They allow child labour. Remember, as distasteful as it is, these people bring money home, be it very little, to their families who need the money to survive with the basics of life. Not so that they can buy their kids a new notebook or iPhone or whatever.

    Before we start throwing blame at our big corporations, who pay us in the west extraordinary salaries so that we can have our huge homes, our 1.5 cars per person, our boats and motorcycles for pleasure purposes, graphite shaft golf clubs and memberships at golf and country club resorts, we need to look at ourselves in the mirror and wonder, Do I really need to live this lush lifestyle? And if I choose to live this lush life style, is it OK that some poor bastard in a third world country slaves to make it so I can.

    I do. And I am comfortable with the line I tow. But I also know that we in the west, are really a bunch of spoiled people who seem to have this sense of entitlement that allows third world countries to force their labour to work in conditions that we here will not.

    I think every one here on this site has a motorcycle that they enjoy. They do not need it. The vast majority of us can take public transit to where we need to go. We just choose not to. Myself included.

    I have to step down off this soap box now because the shit I am carrying here is too heavy and the box is going to break.

    My name is 34468 Randy and I am running for President of the UFRR!
     


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    Just think. If there was no DuPont, Seal Team Six couldn't have taken out Osama Bin Laden.
     


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    Seal team six... Sponsored by DuPont.
     


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    More like supplied by DuPont. They do sponsor Jeff Gordon's NASCAR rig.

    The connect is that DuPont started as an explosives and gunpowder outfit.

    Not of great import here but DuPont has something to do with yogurt too. One should probably not attempt any connection between Seal Team Six and yogurt until absolute proof is submitted. Ya don't want these dudes pissed off..
     


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