Tragedy in Connecticut

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  1. Rainbow7

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    Why do you assume I am an Australian? - Merely residing in a country does not a citizen make.

    In any case, are you saying that only US citizens should be concerned about the antics of the "man" who has the ability to unleash nuclear fire on the world?
     


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    Ahh that explains some of your bizarre outbursts, still unless you're an American I still don't get why you'd care as Obama is extremely unlikely to be in a position to blow up the world if Reagan or Brezhnev weren't able to...
     


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    Some of these dudes "acquire" semi-auto weapons and right off the bat convert them to full auto. I think the reason is mostly fear of being attacked by a wounded rabbit or maybe they are just lousy shots. Same dudes are usually fast guys too, riding turbocharged Honda stepthroughs..;)

    Next we will begin to hear from quarters attempting to convince that the next thing the government will take from us is dinner, salad or oyster forks. The oyster forks being the precursor tool as a basis for a slippery slope argument..

    Judging? Why not? American website- American rules..Go for it.. Lord knows we enable our nutters and some judgement calls from cooler heads is maybe just what we need to hear no matter where they hang thier skidlids.
     


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    Maybe we should start a letter writing campaign telling POTUS that he should share our nukes with North Korea, Iran and a couple of the smaller places in Africa that one side would no doubt use on the other within days and damn, I almost forgot Syria..

    We could get that chorus that made the Coca-Cola commercial, do flashmob shit and march on the Whitehouse just for starters.

    I'm thinkin that ol Rainbow wants to be a troll but ain't very good at it.
     


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    Remember being in the US not long after Australias Port Arthur Massacre and going out to lunch at Hooters with a US Colleague who was a super intelligent guy from AT&T Labs AND a Libertarian ( found myself often highly amused by his Political ideas ) his view was if the people that were shot had guns they could have shot Martin Bryant dead after the first couple of killings, I agreed he had a point but personally I'd rather Martin Bryant didn't have access to the types of guns he owned in the first place.
     


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    Yes, had to carry that SOB on more than one occasion. Bitched & moaned about it the whole time.;)

    Sad but true about the worship part. I know people with extensive collections or dare I say toolboxes.

    As a gun owner I think and hope your right about laws changing. Truly unfortunate that takes an event like this to effect change.

    Glad to have my ratcheting wrenches that move at 2200 fps.
     


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    Most of the deranged seem to have enough left to off themselves. A good thing IMO. Another that is a good thing is that certain crimes are not looked upon well by prison inmates for those who commit these atrocious acts.

    I cannot in good conscience fault your colleague for his political views. I myself have become more than libertarian whilst in Hooters a time or two. It's been awhile but I remember the food being not too bad either.
     


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    We should both be happy "tools" of that calibre are not available at WalMart. Many of us do have guns myself included. My most oft used "tool" is a Red Rider BB gun I use to scare crows out of a big tree near my place or to pop cats in the flanks when they start to shit in the flower bed.

    I will be on the lookout for one of those wrenches.. Are they metric? :)
     


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    The gun debate has nothing to do with hunting rabbits. Some will say that as it's easier to accept than the real truth. The fact of the matter is that the framers of the Constitution were historians and all governments have eventually grown to a point where they no longer serve the people. The framers of the Constitution were attempting to win their freedom from an oppressive government.

    People will believe it can't happen again. The truth is it's ALWAYS happened. Others believe that history is the best prophet. A government that doesn't fear the people cannot serve the people. Obviously the line must be drawn somewhere and my neighbor shouldn't have a Patriot missile. Most people accept that the Constitution protection of citizen's rights to arms stops at firearms. So now people need to be more educated on firearms when they talk about gun laws. In the hands of many individuals, a "regular" "hunting" rifle can be far deadlier than the scary looking AR-15 etc.

    As I said earlier; this individual would have mowed kids down with an automobile while they were gathered up loading a school bus if he couldn't access a gun. Blaming the gun or taking the gun from the psycho would not have prevented a tragedy from happening.
     


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    Great points. I hope what you say holds up when the next psycho takes out a bus with an RPG or maybe even one of those vests we are seeing too much of.

    Nice to know that the Founding Fathers were historians. I always wondered what all those old dudes did over there in Philly and Bean Town.

    We will surely hear the cries of foul from many until some of those "many" find find thier views not being popular when election time comes round.

    Mostly? Follow the money.

    Look for change that will still adhere to the letter of the law, the philosophy of the framers and most especially the advantage of the laws concerning states rights.

    Maybe we can run some internet ads and dump a shitload of autos to some of the folks in Egypt and North Korea just for fun of course.
     
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    SM, the NRA had nothing to do with this. If the criminals or anyone else that wants a gun will find a way to get one. If the NRA had their way, everyone would be armed. When one retard like this starts shooting, those armed will be shooting back, not just be a target. It is like crack or LSD or anything else illegal. If you want it bad enough, you can and will find it. I am very much for conceal/carry. No sign will stop a person like this. No area of a gun free zone will stop this. They just know that people in that zone are better targets, because, they are not armed as well. Seriously. You think a law, or a sign, is going to stop someone from bringing a weapon in there? Does it work with drug free zones? nope. Ask any LEO. signs don't stop people from doing illegal things. Does a speed limit of 55/65 stop you from doing 60/70, or higher? nope. They are just signs. Will 1 armed officer stop this from happening in any school? nope. He's at the other end, trying to get through all the kids running in the other direction. Banning guns won't do it either. Nothing will, or can, prevent a tragedy like this from happening again.

    It is a sad thing when things like this happen. But banning weapons only allows those law breakers to have a longer time to shoot before they are fired upon. Is the answer to arm the teachers, the principal, or the janitors? Have LEO's roaming the hall? Metal detectors at the entrances? lock down the schools?

    Mort, I have the same feeling that things like this will continue. Even in death this guy will get his 15 minutes, even if he does not deserve them.
     


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    outlawing more 'weapons' does not mean there will be fewer 'weapons' it means the country will have more outlaws.

    as a person with a 'mental instability i do not belong here.
     
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    If a psycho wants to take out a buss and can't get hold of the RPG then he'll toss a flaming cocktail onto it from a highway overpass, or get a job as a buss mechanic and strap a bomb underneath it, or assemble a bomb in his own car and pull up along side the buss and blow it up. The common theme is the psycho and we need to get better at identifying people who need help.

    I can't believe that there weren't warning signs about this individual. It also appears there were warning signs about the Colorado theater shooting but all the facts aren't known to the public yet.

    There was a failure in the system and all aspects of the system should be looked at - including the gun, how he got it, could he have been stopped without impeding the rights of others? How did he get in, how was he not given psychological (or effective psychological) help ahead of time?
     


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    as a person with a 'mental instability i do not belong here.
     
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    While I understand and in some ways agree the 2nd amendments original intent was admirable in building safeguards to stop a corrupt Government ever having to much power over the people in most Westernised countries where the angry disturbed don't have easy access to the Semi automatic military style weapons required to make them feel invincible most just go away and quietly suicide by themselves or worst case crazily run around stabbing a few people with a knife or machete before being overpowered, the school bus example while agree possible doesn't seem to happen probably doesn't appeal their inner need to be "Powerful" if only for a short time.
     


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    his 'mental disturbance' had nothing to do with his actions.

    as a person with a 'mental instability' i do not belong here.
     
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    maybe you would get the connection (or lack of connection) if he had owned a VFR. "VFR owner kills 30, police questioning all VFR owners, camps set up to contain possible U.S. national security risk"
     


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    What???

    I have a difficult time believing you are serious
     


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    Someone is going to have to explain to me how race has any parallels what-so-ever in this discussion
     


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    You really lost me with that one.
    http://dictionary.reverso.net/english-cobuild/psycho
     


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