Freaking OUT...PLSE HELP ASAP - head light out...

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    Hey guys, need your help ASAP please - or can't ride on these beautiful evenings!

    Just got on the bike after a month of not being able to ride (moving, traveling etc.).

    I have a RWB 2007 with ABS...

    Problem- Both front headlights are not working, they were last night. Only thing I did today was take the seat off and put back on. Saw a single fuse near the battery and it is okay - wiggled all wires I could and nothing...

    Both smaller turn signals are illuminated and signals work fine front and rear - also, rear running brake light works and brake light works - both rear signals work.

    I'm at a loss! What I found didn't do a good job explaining how to get to the fuses - but are the headlights on their own fuse?

    Any/ALL help asap is greatly appreciated! :crazy:
     
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    the fuse box is under the right cowl...
     
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    So, just take off the right fairing (large fairing on side - NOT the front fairing)?
     
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    Also, is it the right side as you're on the bike or right as you're looking at it?
     
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    FREAKIN' please help ASAP - headlights (lo n high) aren't working!!

    Freaking OUT...PLSE HELP ASAP - head light out...
    Hey guys, need your help ASAP please - or can't ride on these beautiful evenings!

    Just got on the bike after a month of not being able to ride (moving, traveling etc.).

    I have a RWB 2007 with ABS...

    Problem- Both front headlights are not working, neither hi or low beam, they were last night. Only thing I did today was take the seat off and put back on. Saw a single fuse near the battery and it is okay - wiggled all wires I could and nothing...

    Both smaller turn signals are illuminated and signals work fine front and rear - also, rear running brake light works and brake light works - both rear signals work.

    I'm at a loss! What I found didn't do a good job explaining how to get to the fuses - but are the headlights on their own fuse?

    I heard fuses are under right fairing, but is that the right when u are on the bike?

    Think I almost had it off, but once simple plastic screw had me stuck - you must take both of them off right that are under the bike? Tell me if I'm right - I took two smaller screws out on side fairing - then three longer ones from around the front - one plastic screw inside towards the top of front wheel then just needed the last two off the bottom of bike. Was I almost there??

    I'd like to hear back cause if it's not as simple as a fuse replace then doubt I'll d*ck with it much more - I have a tendency to break/scratch stuff just like I did on the bottom of the fairing - good thing it's UNDER the bike though!

    Any/ALL help asap is greatly appreciated! Suppose to ride tomm day/night with pals....
     
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    Not sure about the 6 gen, but many of the earlier Hondas have the headlights wired through the starter button. When you push the start button, the headlights cut out to allow for maximum available power to the starter motor. If the start button doesn't return all the way back out, the headlights won't come back on. Earlier starter buttons were garbage design, later starter buttons have a habit of being damaged when being strapped and hauled on trailers etc.
     
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    Hold the show a little Bud. If your 6th gen is non ABS, then the fuse panel is housed behind the right side (as you sit) cockpit trim panel. That is the sort of trianglar sort shaped panel between the faring and the instument panel. It is held on only by two faring bolts and one faring clip. I don't know how much experience you have had with these clips but they are easily broken. Equally easy to remove once you know how.

    If your bike has ABS Brakes, then you have two panels. The panel with your headlight fuse is on the left side same place. The only thing on that fuse is your headlights....all of them. You would have thought for safety reasons, they would have the high beams on a separate fuse so if you blew a fuse at night while driving, you could quickly switch to high beam and have some light but no. They dropped the ball on that one.

    These panels seem to be hard to get out. You do have to force them a bit but they do come out rather easy. A little gentle force is required Too much force and you are going to break the clips and pin that are attached to the trim panel.

    I have taken pix but alas, battery died on camera and I can't download them right now. If you haven't resolved this by tomorrow, I can post up pix with some instruction then.
     
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    BTW.

    If you are having to get on the floor and reach up to take a panel off, you are looking in the wrong place.
     
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    BTW # 2

    There is space to put spare fuses in there. DO NOT REPLACE WITHOUT FILLING THESE SPOTS WITH SPARES!!!! I have a tiney mini LED flashlight zipties to my throttle cables just in case. It is about 1 inch long....kinda like my....oh......never mind.
     
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    That's great feedback thanks a million!! Laptop about dead but took a pic of ur post and will try in the morning ;) - someone told me you have to take the side fairing off - guess I was lookin at it wrong so thanks again!
     
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    You may have misunderstood what he meant. If you are waiting till the morning, I should have pix ready for you.
     
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    Does you bike have ABS or not? Brake Caliper Housing on ABS is gold and on non ABS is silver?
     
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    BTW: that is confusing though cause the owners manual I just looked up - had the fuse box under the right side fairing (ie: large side fairing - I know it's easy to mistake all the fairings for others but I'm referring to, when I say right side fairing, if you're off the bike looking at it from the side - the large fairing that covers the engine). So, I think I know what you mean though that I need to look at the "cockpit trim panel" which if I were to grip the throttle and drop my hand straight down from it - I'd hit the triangle shaped cockpit trim panel. BTW#5 or so...lol - I don't mind the BTW - keep em coming lol. Believe it or not I'm not stupid lol - just my first street bike and a lot diff than easy dirtbikes I use to ride. Why it's nice when you start making money...have the pro's do it right, but trying to save some $ since we just got into a new place. Plus I can show my GF how "studly" I am when the lights HOPEFULLY work in the morning lol. Thanks again! Please correct me if I'm wrong though, and to keep this thread short(er) I won't reply - simply try to fix and post the outcome which will be - fixed due to fuse or 2.) said F* it off to the dealer on Monday :)!
     
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    If you don't have ABS, then there is just the one panel on the left side. If you have ABS, there is a panel on each side. Don't concern yourself with the lenght of a thread. We are here to help any way we can. Lord knows, I have gotten lots of help here in the past and still do.
     
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    Check the light connector first. And pull out the bulbs did you check the hi beam make sure they work?
     
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    Cycle the high/low beam switch. Sometimes they get wonky and will stick in between settings. Cycling the switch can free things up so it works again.

    Jose
     
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    The faring bolts bolt into Wellnuts which nuts secured in place with rubber. When tightening them with the allen key, they need to be really snug, but don't force them or you will rip the rubber portion and they will not work anymore.

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    Could be. But on the sixth gen, with the high beams on, all four lamps are lit. This really sounds like a fuse to me, but for the sake of a simple test, why not?
     
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    Randy....quit talking about your wellnuts......you were banned the last time you talked about them.....



    and yeah sounds like a fuse to me too
     
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    Post 276 of this thread has the wiring schematic. My phone won't behave and allow me to grab just the img or the single post.

    http://vfrworld.com/forums/5th-gene...ual-project-bike-98-vfr800-10.html#post353105

    The lights run through the starter button, common point of failure as I said above, and you never said if you checked it out?

    The problem with a blown fuse is that more often than not, something has to cause the fuse to blow like a short somewhere.
     
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