Catalytic Converters question

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  1. aotto

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    Does removing the cat on a VTech result in increased power and better sound and is fitting a powercommander really worthwhile?
     
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    YES !




    Some gut there Cat, (Cheaper route) but believe you should replace the headers with out a Cat, with a better flow & less heat.
    also if smog inspections or other govermental inforcement comes into play, (like in Commiefornia, USA. ) might want to have the stock system on hand to put back on to pass the ticket, or smog inspection, then switch back afterwords .

    A Powercommander is a improvement especially with smoothing out the Vtec.
    But I Highly recamend that if you go the gutting or total exhast system & a PC III, that you have (more $$$ but worth it) to find a M/C business with a Dyno that can Dyno tune your PC to your bike & that will make your bike run as best as it can.
    The differance of plug & go the PCIII versas having it Dyno tuned with the PCIII is a lot & I have it done to all my fuel injected bikes.
     


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    Thanks a mil for the advice!!!
     


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    Way to show concern for global warming! You guys rock! :rockon:
     


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    right...because it was all our factories and other polution sources that caused the planet to go from one solid frozen continent to many "green" continents :smow:
     


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    The 10 hottest years in recorded history have taken place over the last 14 years. I suppose you are one of a handful of people left on earth (not to include a single real scientist) who still believes this is part of a cycle?
     


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    The key words are "recorded history" If the Earth does go in cycles it takes thousands of years to complete one cycle. recorded weather history is just the last hundred or so. I'm not saying that it is fact but just my opinion.

    Oh yeah back to topic I say gut the cat/put on headers do what you want. Global warming won't be our downfall someone will nuke us long before that gets us.
     


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    i guess i should go put the cats back on my 6.0L GTO.


    wait, nevermind. i like my 500hp, the sound, and the smell:clap2:
     


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    We are already doing are part by riding motorcycles rather than a cage that spews more smog with a Cat than a M/C does with out one as well as burning less fuel.

    Also barking up the wrong tree when there are 50 million 2 smoker moped's, scooters, & M/C's in Asia running around with 99% of them ever having a maintnace scheduled.

    i doubt that of the 40% of the 4 strokers out there that take off the cat will ever begin to compare to the damages being occured by the factories, Cages & old school designed 2 smokers out there.



    p.s. by the way - your welcome Aotto !
     


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    Yeah your right the human race is very short lived, but it's still sick to see such lack of respect for what little the EPA is attempting to accomplish. We're going to see a very different world just 20 years from now...and by the way, if you think scientists are looking back 100 years at this issue you are very uninformed. Not going to waste my time, do yourself a favor and do some research.
     


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    More days to ride per year, I'm down!!!
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    hey, before we were here there was something else, frickin dinosaurs, they aint cheer no more(redneck for, they are not here anymore), humans had nothing to do with that. and after we are gone there will be something else. we don't live outside of nature we are part of it. all the scientists will agree, Extinction is part of Nature. we are part of it and in another 15 billion years it won't make any difference. they have ice cores from Antarctica they only go back 600000 years. last time I checked the earth formed 4500million yrs ago. each million = 1000 thousand. besides our planet isn't here for us, we are here for it. it is a life support system for bacteria. they will survive no matter what. they control everything they are the most successful most abundant lifeform. more of them live in each one of us than # of humans in the universe.
    read Microcosmos by Lynn Margulis(leading theoretical Biologist) and David Sagan(Carl Sagan's and Lynn's son)
    so get off your soapbox and get on your VFR and ride life is short
     


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    OH YEAH I FORGOT
    WAAAH WAAAAH WAAHH
    SOMEBODY CALL A WAAAMBULANCE
    frickin' tree huggers
     


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    I don't need anyone to waste thier time educating me on weather patterns or climate change. I don't want to grow up to be Willard Scott. But I'm not uneducated on the matter either. I know about ice cores and thermal spectrographs and shiat like that. I just think that your barking up the wrong tree trying to dictate what some guy does to his motorcycle when there are factories that have multiple engines that are the size of a city block pumping out god knows what 24/7. if you want to jump on someone to make a point start there and maybe the little guys will follow suit.

    Like I said before this is just my opinion don't take it to heart.
     


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    First off, I am a proponent of the environment and studied resource management in school. However, I find the rigidity of thought regarding ecology and the environment staggering.:boink: I will willingly concede that we should reduce emissions for health concerns such as those faced in Beijing and Tokyo.

    The paradigm that "every" scientist agrees that global warming is caused by CO2 emmisions or by humans is just plain ignorant, and as usual dismisses those who don't agree with impunity. If you are worried about CO2 stop eating meat. Raising cattle for human consumption causes more CO2 than all the cars. No one wants to talk about that but PITA, not that I am fan of them.

    New evidence, and I suspect an increasing ammount may tie the warming of the planet with the one source of actual heat in the Galaxy....THE SUN! New studies now are finding it is getting hotter significantly on the surface of the sun.

    Just sprinkle some commie dust, and wave Hillary's wand of Political Correctness and you will surely get your intended outcome, billions spent on scientists furthering their own agenda to get new grant money.

    Oh and as a side benefit we can ruin the most successful economy in the worlds' history to let the Europeans catch up and the Asians/Latin Americans whom won't comply to anything truly stomp us.

    Wasn't this a question of power output?
     


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    yeah somehow we went from the inocent question will this give me more power to debating climate change and co2 emmisions.

    I vote we stick to bikes.
     


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    been watching this thread i think somehow got way off topic .anaways back on topic just intalled staintune looked inside cat looked like a screened honey comb wanted to gut it at same time whats behind that? has anyone guted the cat while still attahed to bike if so how did you do it?:lever:
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    i dont know how easy it would be, buy you would have to get an angled crowbar in there to break it up, and you probably wont be able to get it out. i plan on taking mine off and going over to a friends place and cutting it open and welding it back up
     


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    Thats what i thought didnt want to try and end up having to take it off i wonder if any one has tryed gutting it still atttached. once you get it done let us know how easy or difficut it was and whats behind that honey comb screen do hickey. :lever:
     


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    i dont know if its on here or on www.vfrdiscussion.com but i saw pics of the cat cut open (not fluffly either lol). all thats in there is 2 strips of that "honey comb" stuff (the catalyst). by the pics i saw, it looked like the easiest way was to cut it open.
     


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