Can anyone help me and explain what I need to do? I have a VFR 800 1998 and I’m having a few problems with it. The first problem is the Fi light comes on.when I put the stand down, the Fi light comes on and goes off at a steady pace instead of (what used to happen) it used to flash long and short flashes. It’s bothering me as I don’t know what the problem is, as the bike seems to be riding normally and the light comes on after about 2km is constantly flashing whilst riding but not showing any signs that there is a fault. The second issue is that the temperature is running at 111 instead of usually running at 104 degrees. Please advise me what to do with these two issues. Thank You
The FI light flashing is trying to give you codes of what is wrong. Usually whey you ride, and something goes wrong, the light comes on steady. But when you put your side stand down, it will flash signaling what the error is. There can be either short or long flashes (with long being about 1.2 seconds). One long flash is the equivalent of 10 short flashes. So, say for example you put your side stand down and you immediately get 5 quick flashes. That could be one code. Then there is a 2 second pause, followed by one long flash and 3 short flashes - indicating code 13. In the above scenario, you would have 2 codes to deal with, just for conversation sake. There are something like 26 different codes if I recall. Don't have my manual in front of me. First things first - you need to find out how many blinks you are getting. If it doesn't work with the side stand, than we need to go about it a different way. Let us know if you can count the flashes, and if not, then we can move to option 2. Secondly, You're country of origin shows USA, but I suspect that is not the case since you refer to temps in Celsius (you can't be talking 104F). And you use the word "whilst". There are some minor differences in US versus European models, so we need some more details on your bike. These bikes run hot, but yours seems to be on the very upper end of the scale. The fan is designed to come at 105C, and run until the temp drops back to about 99-100C. At 111C, you are definitely on the very high end. Could be fan, old coolant, thermostat stuck, or you are sitting in traffic all day long in 40C temps. Give us more details on the bike. See what you can figure out with the flashes. Then we'll address the hot temps.
thank you.i am from ISRAEL and an english guy wrote this for me. the fi blinks constantly about one second and about 2 seconds between them and it last forever.when i drive out side the city the temperature is about 86c allthaugh it's very hot in israel. i think the bikes are thesame like in europe thanks for your help
Welcome to the Forum As Pliskin has told you, the sequence of flashes on the FI lamp is telling you the bike has one or more stored error code(s) which you need to investigate. This YouTube video - Reading Fuel Injection Error codes on a VFR800 - YouTube explains the system of how to get codes, what the codes mean, and how to clear them after you have investigated and fixed whatever caused the fault code. It seems you have already found one way to trigger the codes - basically by putting the bike in neutral, with the engine running and the sidestand down - then noting how many long/short flashes occur. Eventually there will be a pause and the sequence will repeat (forever). Once you spot the same code being reported - you know that you have seen all the recorded fault codes, and can turn the bike off. Now refer to your vfr manual (see the links here to find a manual for your model VFR - http://vfrworld.com/forums/specifications/3161-downloadable-parts-catalogs-service-manuals.html ) or watch closely the relevant bit of the video as it shows briefly a list of what each of the code(s) means. Once you figure out, and have fixed the source of the error codes, the video also shows how to clear the stored error codes from the VFR and the bike should be good to go. Good luck and let us know how you get on. Skimad4x4 Proud Member - 6th Gen Militia # 218 - European 1st Division
i repeat again.even the sidestand dowm or my mechanic made a bridge in the cdi there is no history.no long flash and no short flash. only bip bip bip and it last till i turn off the engine. about the fan problem.do you suggest to replace the thermostat or the switch?
I'm not sure if I understand but I am trying to help. The blinks will last forever because the system is constantly telling you there is a problem. You say there is a blink that lasts about one second, then a pause of 2 seconds, then a blink of one second, then a pause of 2 seconds. It will do this repeatedly until you shut the bike off. Is that correct? The one long blink (a one second blink) equals code 10. The manual says for code 10 it is a loose or bad BARO sensor. On USA bikes, the BARO sensor is located on the right side of the bike, behind the tail piece of plastic, next to the brake fluid holder. You can try cleaning this and reassembling. Having a BARO sensor go bad is not very common. Have you checked your regulator rectifier (R/R)? Have you checked the voltage when the bike is off? When bike is at idle? When bike is at 5,000rpms? I can tell you that I had a code for a BARO sensor, and it turned out the BARO was fine. It was my R/R that was the problem. I suggest you check the voltage before and the R/R before you start making any other repairs. As for your temperature - and again, I hope I understand what you are saying: If your bike is running at 86 Celsius when you are outside of the city and able to move, that's a very normal temperature. If you are in the city of Israel, where the air temperature is 35 Celsius to 40 Celsius, and you are stuck in traffic, then it would be "normal" to see your bike temperature at 104 Celsius or so. 111 Celsius is still very hot. If what I think you are syaing is correct, I would not think your thermostat is broke. You are just running very hot. You could / should consider changing your coolant if it has been longer than 2 years. Does your fan come on at all?
Right - a continually flashing PGM-FI light code is not listed as a fault code, but obviously it suggests something is wrong with the system. NB the system monitors and depends on receiving correct inputs from heaps of sensors/wiring and of course it assumes the ECU itself has not developed a fault. If it was my bike, as OEM bits are fairly expensive, I would hold off spending to replace any stuff which might be fully serviceable, at least until we get some sensible response from the PGM-FI unit. So start by completely clearing the code buffer in the ECU. I suspect the ECU probably has some sort of code buffer limit and once it is full it will give up issuing individual codes and revert to some sort of generic "I have a problem code" which could be what you are now seeing. So refer to that youTube video, clear the buffer and restart the bike to see if it sorts itself out. With luck it will then display a continuous FI light which you should see at normal start-up or it will provide a sequence of codes which we can work with. However if that fails to clear the issue - and we still get the continual flashing FI light, then we probably need to check for faulty wiring or excess voltage damage which could be causing the PGM-FI issues. Remove the seat (and probably the fairings too) and carefully check the wiring loom methodically. In particular check the wiring from RR to the battery and main fuses. You are looking for any signs of charred wiring, melted connectors and blown fuses. If that is looking OK, then follow and check the wiring to each of the sensors. Detach each connector, then inspect, clean if necessary and reinstate. Do the same with every fuse. Some of the sensors have to provide inputs within a narrow range of acceptable values for the system to work - so in a bike this old, there is a risk of a build up of corrosion which could be giving the system one or more inputs it cannot accept. Worse still your VFR model is prone to problems with the RR/wiring which can lead to excess volts which could boil/kill the battery and potentially fry other electrical components including the PGM-FI unit itself - which would not be good. A search on here will show what you are looking for and how to check stator outputs etc. If that all fails to identify what is wrong, then its probably time to get a Honda dealer to check the bike over, as whatever is wrong is possibly going to be fairly expensive to fix and if necessary they may be able to test things by swapping out potentially faulty components without you having to pay for them, to resolve the problem. Good luck and let us know how you get on Skimad4x4 Proud member 6th Gen Militia # 218 - European 1st Division
