Tried not to but bought a new project bike

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  1. REEK

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    So I had 7 bikes sitting in the garage at the beginning of the year. Finally said, I'm going to thin the heard. So I sold my 93 and 94 Zx7s. Then sold my Cbr1000rr. Was fighting the urge for months now. Then, I dropped my 93 in the drive way recently. while looking for some parts, came across a 93 with 64,000 miles on it and mechanically fine just beat to heck cosmetically, down on both sides and pretty much a running chassis and all stock minus the muffler. Ended up paying $1000. I figure if it doesn't work out, I can easily part it out and break even.

    Tried to upload pics tonight but something's wacky on my computer so will get some posted tomorrow.

    Anyway, once you all see what I have to start with, input as to what to do with it would be appreciated. I have plenty of time since I'm going to drop the motor out and go thru that first, but never to early to get ideas. Already have a 93 so don't want to restore to original. I guess I'm going to head in the Frankenviffer direction.
     


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    isn't there a rule about starting a project thread without pictures? :photo:
     


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    Have you talked dirty to her and told her all the things you want to do to her?

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    I tried to get up early and snap some phone pics to avoid the shameful 'no picture' post beating. Didn't make it. But heres a few, bikes parked in my dog run area so not great pics.

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    not sure why 2 pics are upside down

    Edit: fixed em
     
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    OK, ideal for a frankenviffer.

    The whole USD front end.

    RC45 body.

    Kicking exhaust.

    Interesting paint.

    DO IT.

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    Yes was thinking CBR1000rr front end. Rear end is the tough part. the mount area of the rear subframe, with the 2 slotted holes, tough to incorporate into any other body work other than the original.
     


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    So I've torn down the 93, added a 95 donor bike

    I have the 93, completely down to the frame. Thats always so much fun! I think the tear down is why I take on projects. Anyway, pretty dirty after 65,000 miles. Most good came from using mineral spirits on the hard parts. Swing arm chain slider is in ok / useable shape. Was trying to replace it as long as I had the swing arm off but after stripping one of the screw heads, decided to leave well enough alone.

    I did compare the 93 with the 95 swing arm. They're slightly different. The shock linkage is definitely different but the way the linkage attaches to the swing arm is completely different. I thought I saw the gen 3 and gen 4 swing arms were the same part number somewhere, but nope.

    I ordered a Penske for my all stock 93. Since the bike only had 9000 miles on it, I'm using the stock rear shock on this rebuild.
     

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    So here's the poor helpless abandoned, title-less 95. Also torn down and generously donating parts to the project. has 30,000 on the motor. Started and sounded fine, rode through all of the gears before bringing it home. VERY interesting with only a stub of a brake lever. Not one of my smartest moments. Was able to get the salvage yard from $800 to $400. Not much left on the bike.

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    fork stop.jpg fork stop 2.jpg And so far, I have rebuilt the entire rear hub/drive, swing arm bearings, rear linkage bearings. Installed All Balls roller bearing headset. Trying to get the 929 triple on, noticed some interference on the fork stops. Seems to hit the front fairing stay mount. Whether to grind it free or leave it, I'll see once, I get the radiator and oil cooler back on, check interference.

    I've got the 929 wheel and forks rebuilt with the entire front brake system rebuilt and ready to go. Just waiting for a new head gasket as the original 95 motor seemed to have a stuck exhaust valve on cylinder 2. So as an easy fix, just swapped the front heads off the 93 onto the 95. Will stick with the cams off the 95 though, the 93 show some signs of wear. As soon as the motor goes back in, things should keep moving forward. Only bad thing is work is about to get really busy for the next 2 months.

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    You've already ID'd some of the differences between the 3G and 4G, I would be nervous about swapping one (but not both) cylinder heads on the 95 bottom end, but retaining the camshafts in the heads... I am pretty sure that teh 3G has different carb specs, one would assume that the cams are tuned to the carbs...
     


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    Not sure if you meant the cams or heads would be different. I thought the heads were the same for 3rd and 4th gen. I was planning on using the entire 95 motor with just the front 93 heads and use the cams from the 95 so all should be kosher. Using the 95 carbs too.

    If the heads happen to be different, let me know. It'll save me from doing a bad swap.
     


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    subframe.jpg clips.jpg So finally got the motor back in the frame. 929 forks on. Apex adjustable clipons. Scored a complete new old stock CBR F3 ignition, gas cap and helmet lock on ebay thats going on the bike. CBR1000RR controls. And cut/weld subframe as a trial. No making fun of the ugly welds.

    Going with a F4i race tail with a CBR600RR race front/side fairing in an attempt to go with the half faired theme. Was thinking since I'm old and the retro is more my speed, paint is likely going to be an 80's VFR inspired look.

    Still working on mounting the radiator and re-installing the wiring harness too. And throwing around several exhaust ideas. Almost bought some MV agusta F4 pipes but decided against it.
     


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    You can assume or you can look at the cam swap thread link in my signature for the facts.
     


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    Thanks. Saw the cam swap thread a while back and forgot all about it.

    Quick question, way back when, in the late 80s or so, I was told by a local shop in New York, running your bike on a dyno would ruin your rear tire. Back then, I was a poor student modding and racing an old EX500 so never questioned it since every spare cent I had went into parts. Ended up using "butt dyno" for the most part. Is this true? Never really thought about it until now.
     


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    Not a problem I'm aware of. Not sure how it could be any harder in equipment than a hard canyon ride or trying to pull wheelies.
     


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    "smooth" metal cylinder or roughed up fucked up road ... HMMM seems to me that running your bike on a dyno for 30 minutes or less id a lot less harmful than running it on the road.... I mean, the only difference is your not running on the sidewalls of the tire while tied to the dyno.... but the time on it isn't enough to wear out a tire.....(one would think)...


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    OK, thats what I thought. Didn't make sense to me way back then either, but I didn't want to risk it since I couldn't afford a new tire. More like than not, they saw it was a 500cc bike and were just dismissing me. Kinda like when I went to the dealer for a new helmet after a low side and they steered me to the cheapo helmets after I told them I rode a 500.

    The VFR project is slow going, been pulling 12 hr shifts at work recently. Hoping by end of July to be in the garage full time.:biggrin:
     


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