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Is a 2007-2012 Fuel Tank the same as a 6th gen and will it fit a 5th gen?????

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  1. The Toad

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    Hi all,
    I am about to embark on new paint and have managed to get hold of a full set of fairings, so on that basis figured I would try and chase a tank as well. That way I will have a FULL set of spares if I ever need to change them over.

    I was initially after a 5th gen tank to match my current set up until I found out a 6th gen tank will also fit with a little work, I have come across a tank from a 2007-2012 VFR and would like to ask is the 2007-2012 the same as the 6th gen and if so will it also fit a 5th gen?

    Thanks in advance

    Cheers
    Daniel
     


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    As far as I know the 6th generation ran from 2002 till 2009 after that you have the 7th gen which is the new 1200 so it is completely different.
     


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    as above, the 6th gen tank is different than the vfr1200's tank (some call this the 7th gen). size difference aside, the 6th gen tank is held on by two bolts up front and a hinge and two bolts on the back. I havent seen/heard how the new 1200's tank is held on but I do know that they are not the same size.

    6th gen 02 through 09. vfr1200 09-now
    if they have a part number sticker on the bottom then get them to send it to you to verify what gen the tank is. I have a spare tank for my 07, but I havent decided if I am parting with it yet.
     


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    Hi Jethro,

    Thanks for the reply.

    Thats what I thought, The owner of the tank has told me it is from a 2011 VFR800 hence my confusion. Are the current VFR800's being sold classes as 6th gen or newer?

    I appolagize if my question is stupid

    Cheers Daniel
     


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    get the part number and either we, the forum users or any dealer can verify the bike its ment for.
     


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    The VFR800's that are being sold as new, are Old-Stock 6th Generation Bikes. Its the build date that matters, not when it is sold.
     


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    Thanks Paul,

    That is what i figured, just need to make sure before I buy it.

    Thanks for the help guys I appreciate it

    Daniel
     


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    that looks like a 6th gen tank, but for the really small hole for the sender unit. It should be bigger, but otherwise looks identical to mine. I would still ask for the part number sticker to be photo'd and sent as he is not accepting returns and you dont want to spend 300$ on a tank thats not going to work for you.

    As for your other question, I have been poking around and can not answer if it will fit, but Toecutter or tinkerinwstuff might be able to shed some light on it.
     


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    Sorry if my first post sounds a contrary note,... just joined as i am contemplating buying into the 6th Gen world... but what happens in NA does not always reflect what is happening in the wider world. 6th gen VFRs are still being produced both as VFR's & as the VFR's mutant sibling, the Crossdresser (sorry CrossRunner). Over here in Australia all vehicles sold must have a compliance plate fitted listing that it complies with the ADR's (Aust Design Rules... based for the large part on Euro regs but with our own twists to make things more expensive) in force at the time of manufacture. To this end it lists both the ADR codes the bike is built to comply with and the month/year of manufacture. It is important to understand this plate is a legal document in itself and it is an offence to alter it in any way once affixed at the point and time of manufacture.

    What does this longwinded guff mean? I have just returned from my local stealer as Honda are having a end of financial year promotion on. On the floor is a Crossdresser 800 demo & a white/black VFR 800 Vtec both with compliance plates with 02/12 build dates.

    Daniel, that tank you are looking at is a 6th gen tank not a 1200 tank.

    Apittslife, The 6th Gen VFR800 VTEC is still in production, or it was at the start of this year, its just that Honda North America are not importing them to your part of the (VFR)world anymore. Its not that surprising when you look at the parts commonality between the VFR800 & the Crossdresser that both are produced side by side, especially with the lukewarm reception to the VFR1200.

    Cheers DFH
     


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    DFH, Thanks for the reply.

    My only concern is as it is from a newer production version bike it may have a few small changes that will make fitting it a pain in the A$$. I also called the local dealer and as per usual they have no idea.

    Ok as requested, Part number 17500-MCW-H70ZA Now keep in mind that this part number relates to a difference colour scheme i.e. Black and White so I don't know if this makes it harder to match up.

    Cheers Daniel
     


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    I would be surprised ( not for the first time however...) if there are any differences 02 to 12 as AFAIK there were only ECU/Injection/VTEC changes in 06 for the 6th gen & no advertised changes since then & we all know how the OEM marketing depts like to crow about the tiniest upgrade.

    Is the 6th gen tank a bolt on upgrade for a 5th gen? I would have thought that was your biggest question.

    Cheers DFH
     


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    I believe that Tink was discussing this with another member earlier today and there was some slight modification involved if using a 6th Gen on a 5th Gen. Try sending him a PM.
     


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    Minor modifications required to the plastic on both sides where it follows the body line of the tank.

    Minor modifications required to the rear mount flange on the tank. A tweak of the angle and the holes do not match with the 5th gen tank hinge.

    All internal components will swap. Locking filler cap will swap.
     


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    Thanks DFH,

    It is not a direct swap as such, as best I can tell there is a little bit of modding required however it's not major re working.

    Thanks OOTVS,

    Yes I was picking Tinks brain in the chat room eairlier :)

    Thanks again for the help
     


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    You are not done yet?
     


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