1st Attempt at a start in 8 years...Now more questions

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    Okay so i attempted to start my bike after 8 years. well i cleaned carbs, got all the wiring straight and got power. it does make a clicking type sound from the clutch side for some reason(any cause for this?), so i attempted to pump bad gas out of fuel pump using toecutters step by step and the fuel pump came on once connected to battery...but no fuel came out of the hose.( waited and waited and nothing, so not what do i do)...Okay so i put hose in gas can and attempted to start. its sounds like its trying but it not turning over. like a car with no fuel....so where do i start my diagnoses....any suggestions.
     


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    Kinda hard to understand but i'll give it a shot..Is your tank rusted inside? If so take it to a local radiator shop and get it lined. Is the fuel line clogged? Is the fuel filter clogged? Maybe the fuel pump is bad? Are you getting spark from your plugs? Are the plugs fouled? Is your battery strong? I like to use a battery jump box when first starting a "sitter"..is the clicking sound coming from the starter? Its pretty basic..if its getting fuel and fire it should start..Oh and lets not forget..is the kill switch off?
    First I would pull a plug and see if Im getting a spark..if so..then you're not getting fuel to it, crack the throttle a lil when cranking it or if it reaks of fuel you flooded it and fouled the plugs..
    I just started my 93 vfr after sitting years..after a carb clean, new fuel filter and plugs she fired right up..now stupid me after my oil change I cranked the motor to cycle the oil and left the fuel on..she flooded on me..I drained the fuel bowls, pulled the plugs and cleaned them and took her for a ride..runs great.
    Keep at it you'll get her goin...
     


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    im thinking its the battery right now. cause i took to the shop and they said it was weak. so got it on a trinkle charge now. i dont think pump is bad. when i connected to battery it responded...i assume it wouldnt if it was dead. plus it ran fine before it sat for a while. fuel filter. ill check that. and what would the plugs look like if they are getting a spark. sorry for sounding stupid but i really dont know. this is a learning process...and i jumped fuel pump and no fuel came out as i suspected it would. but it did respond with a slight rumble to it.

    How do i test filter?

    How do i test pump?
     


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    the way I have always checked a plug may be kind of hard on the vfr but what I usually do is pull the plug but leave the insulator connected then ground the plug to the head while trying to start, you should see a healthy spark that goes from the center of the plug right to the bent piece of metal above it. BE SURE that you don't hold the metal part of the plug while you do this. I'm just saying...
     


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    You need to verify the pump is working. Blow through the fuel supply line and verify it is not plugged and fuel is ready to be sucked up.
     


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    Okay i gotta new update...i let the battery charge and tried it again...i held a funnel up and poured gas into it. and it made it to the carbs and now the carbs are leaking...which i assume is right. cause per the step by step the whatcha-ma-callits have to swell up. so going to grab a 6 pack and try it again later. no i did check 2 of the spark plugs and i did see something that remsembles burn marks. so i assume its sparking.
     


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    please tell me you are not doing this in your garage..you're gonna burn the house down!!
     


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    naw not doing it in the garage....lolol..outside of the house.
     


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    Chill out, man! You sound just like his wife !~
     


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    shes probably saying the same thing squirrel.."wish that whatcha-ma-callit would swell up!"
     


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    EXWIFE!!! thats why is took so long to get this project finished...lol...but am i on the right path here. i just charged fuel system by jumping it from the battery, but again no fuel came out. and when i tried it again about 30 minutes after first attempt the fuel just ran from the fuel filter to fuel pump and into carb and on the ground, checked spark plugs and same burn marks and they were dry...
     


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    I don't know about the swelling whatcha-ma-callits, but you may have quite a wait there if you're referring to the bowl gaskets. There's a generic alternative for those, BTW. To bypass the fuel pump, you might try this setup (first few seconds of video):
    Initial startup after a few years in hibernation. - YouTube

    If it's no-go with a strong battery, then I'd be looking at the carb work..........
     


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    so what is the generic alternative for waiting on the bowls to swell? is that bypassingthe fuel pump.
     


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    Bowl gaskets are generic o-rings (use Viton), 3" x 1/16" or 75mm x 2mm or simply -041.
    motionindustries.com

    IMG_6371.jpg

    BTW, if you use the fuel technique from the above video, remember to disconnect your fuel pump electrical connector.
     


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    well after carefully looking over carbs and testing again a rebuild is definitely in order. so ill be ordering parts for that. thanks for everyones help...ill keep you all posted.
     


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    hehe grab a six pack... Now that's a maintenance schedule I can adhere to.
     


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    Sometimes takes up to a full 24 hours to have the float bowl gaskets swell and seal.

    Lots easier to wait a day than start takin stuff apart.
     


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