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    I have an 2002 6th gen that has 16328 miles on it, I checked my oil level last night when I got home. I then saw that my oil was above my high mark on the sight glass. The oil also looked very cloudy, and my coolant was very low. I had had an accident a little less than a year ago with 15623mi, and have rebuilt the bike since then. However when the bike wrecked, the cap on the coolant reserve tank came off and dumped coolant all over the road. Would that cause a bad water pump seal or a bad head gasket. Is there any other places in which the coolant could be getting into my oil. I have a feeling this also could be a fault, because when I was rebuilding the bike I decided to flush the coolant. So I had drained the coolant, but then realized I did not have the correct coolant and could not fill it right away. Would the day or two of not having any coolant in the engine dry out any seals. Also the other thing that worries me is that, lately i have been having what I can describe as a "miss" around 4000rpm only when I hold it there. I am going to be taking off all the plastics here in the next couple of days to get repainted "white", so when I do that I have a list of maintenance procedures that I want to accomplish. Any help on this will be greatly appreciated, this site has been a wealth of knowledge for me. :biggrin:


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    like milky type of cloudy or just real dirty looking?

    I wouldn't think so. At least I wouldn't think it was CAUSE it. I'm not saying you don't have a bad gasket. It's pretty damn rare for a VFR to blow a gasket, though. I actually don't remember one.

    not common ones, but cracked head, cylinder wall, etc. very rare again, though.

    No. It'd take quite a bit longer IMO to dry them out much. Besides, they weren't dry just because you drained it. There is a lot of residual fluid every time you change anything.

    That seems like another problem to me. Is your FI light throwing any codes?


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    The Oil is milky and dirty, and the FI light is not giving any codes. I am not sure how hard it would be to replace the oil seal and some o-rings for the water pump, but do you think for the couple $$ for the seals it wouldn't be a bad place to start. I dont mind putting new oil and a filter in the bike, but I would rather not do it without trying to correct the problem first.
     


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    one thing to remember is that oil expands when heated so if at cold your on the low line after warm up you should be near the high line, also you dumped your bike on its side, any moisture in the crankcase would have been absorbed at that time and will cause your oil to become milky. Also, are you loosing coolant? if your adding coolant fairly regularly then you have a problem and its going somewhere. Change your oil and filter, top off your coolant and ride it for a bit (a day or so) then check the oil and coolant levels. If you cracked (rare but still possible) a coolant passage or tore a gasket then it will be evident. If your loosing coolant but your oil is fine then look into a coolant system pressure test and see if you didnt crack a rad or a fitting.

    the 'miss' at or around 4k-rpm could simply be a dirty injector, these little guys are about 100$cnd each and can be a bitch to figure which is doing it as it may work fine at say 6k-rpm. If your havent done any upgrades yet then consider trying a O2 sensor bypass, your bike still uses the O2 sensors until about 5500 rpm but if both are not reading the right at the same time then half the engine is lean and the other half is rich givinga similar 'miss' sound/feeling, you will need a quick trip to Radio Shack and get a 10pk of 220ohm 1/4w resistors or a 5pk of 100ohm 1w resistors. there are posts on how to do a O2 bypass. this will tell you if you brok an O2 sensor (read very expensive as you have 2).

    If you have the money and time a trip to the dealership to use the live data recorder will yeild the same results but faster and they can even tell you which cylinder is causing it (if they are good with the computer).

    hope you figure it out, I had a problem that took the dealership 10000kms to figure out(warrenty aint it lovely)
     


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    I will double check the oil tonight when I get home, and purchase some new oil and filter on the way home. I should have the correct resistors already, i will just have to install them. I am not sure if I am losing any coolant, it doesn't appear to have lost any inside my garage. I have an dealership right next to my work where my brother used to work Ill see if I can just borrow the equipment if necessary. I will probably also do a throttle body sync here shortly, and I was debating on replacing the spark plugs. If I had a miss in one of the cylinders do you thing the spark plug would show me which one might be different, by being a different color or have carbon residue on it.
     


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