where is the plug to disconnect the pair valve

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    Ultrasonic2 New Member

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    Yes i have searched everywhere but have been unable to find the information i require

    This link seems to be the best information about how to disconnect the Pair plug but im unable to find the plug on my 99 bike by simply lifting up the tank. how can i find it ?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated
     
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    Hi mate,

    If you are wondering why you are getting no responses, I'd suggest you post an introduction.

    If you can't work it out from the instructions I'd suggest you don't do it.

    My honda dealer told me the bike is easier to tune when its not done (for him).

    Powercommander is the only way to really smooth that out IMO.
     
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    I think unplugging it will leave it on all of the time. You need to put a cork in it.
     
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    Step 29 explains this. Make sure you read the full tutorial.

    Either block off plates or block off hose.

    Are you sure you have read the tutorials?
     
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    Thanks for your help

    i read this post

    PAIR and Flapper mod, with bonus snorkel mod for VFR

    which says the plug is on the right hand side and should be accessible without opening the side cover. however the link you gave me is different. Yours makes more scene as the pairs valve is on the left side of the bike

    since i commute on this bike temps are important to me. One would think that disabling pairs would increase exhaust temps at idle which would be a disaster for me. cos it's no longer adding cool ish air from the air box
     
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    The pair system will increase the exhaust temps, as it adds oxygen to the exhaust, increasing the burn.


     
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    Hello I'm trying to find tutorials but I can't find any.

    There should be a couple of links on this post that I can't get to see I only see the one to the page where the guy tells to disconnect the pair solenoid. I was about to follow his method but I then was told that if I disconnect it it leaves pair enabled all the time so. Any information about this please will be highly appreciated.

    The links are gone? Edited or dunno what can someone post them again?
     
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    I did a complete removal and just plugged up outlets on the valve covers. I noticed an ever so slight improvement on off idle response when exiting corners. It could just be in my head though. I think it is more of a mod for the people who just like to tinker with their bikes. Some say there is no difference whatsoever. But i havent read anything about a pc3 or similar not being noticeable. If your not comfortable doing this i suggest just leaving it alone. It wouldnt be worth messing something else up for such a slight if any improvement. The best thing you can do for the sub 3000rpm response other than a pc or whatever is to have your bike tuned up at its best ie; valve adjust newspark plugs clean air filter throttle body snyc new coolant etc.. after making sure all that is at its best then start looking to the mods. Just my 2cents
     
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    so... the pair dumps o2 into the ehhaust to clean up emissions but, that oxygen throws off the o2 sensors causing it to run lean,rich, lean, rich, etc.. right? wouldnt eliminating the o2 sensors solve the problem or is there more issues with the pair other than this? i installed a used pc3 and o2 eliminators yesterday and the bike (07 rwb) seems to be running much better. still a small amount of surging but hardly noticeable and i can probably tune this out. now that ive started working on the bike i want to keep going. am considering the pair mod just to do it but if there is nothing else to gain past o2 eliminators, then whats the point! dont mind having cleaner emissions and i am thermal wrapping my exhaust so the variance in exhaust temps is mute. am i missing something?
     
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    I have just installed a PC3 with the included O2 Sensor eliminators, when i was there i noticed the PO had already did the resistor mod so i can't tell a differente between o2 sensors before and after.

    I believe that removing the o2 sensors will cure the ECU to be trying to fix the mixture. but with the PAIR valves the bike may be running lean now because there is too much oxygen.

    i wonder if the stock maps for the pc3 downloadable from the dynojet site compensate the pair valve removal or not making the mixture at idle richer. is there a map to download and use for a 2002 with K&N air filter, oxygen sensors removed and pair valve disabled??
     
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