2010 Pricing. Kinda Pissed more at the Mapping than the pricing

Price drop alert Check out Cycletrader. Honda is getting rid of there extra 2010's. Damn dealers keep calling me from a month ago before I bought Like We can do that deal now. I'm like you turds you had your chance. Yeah but you could have saved 1000 bucks. Blah blah blah I wanted it then I got it then. They had to know the 2012 bike were coming or does Honda just keep all there Dealers in the Dark?


Oh and Honda Corp by the way the Crippled first and second Gear is very dangerous I think they need to do a recall on that mapping. Hit some real tight canyons this weekend and had a need for first gear and I was all over the place when that map comes to were it should be moving from 3.5k-5.5k If I can keep it over 5.5 I'm fine. Hitting apexes with that is BS, do the engineers know you steering comes from the rear wheel when leaned in a curve? I'm over the headlight not being Dual head lamps.

 

dang.... i just bought a used bike. 2200 miles and an exhaust for $10k on ebay. Heck it hasn't even arrived yet.

Now NEW ones are now going for that price.

Still I'm sure the one they still have at the local CDN dealer is still got a sticker price of $15,999 :crazy:

 

Yeah it kinda pisses people off when they roll out crap like that. It kinda blows me away that Autos and motorcycle sales are kind of the same but the marketing is so much different. Makes me Feel like those V8 commercials. But in this case its I could have had a Cheaper V4

 

Hey bud, I'm pretty sure theres a way to fool the ecu into thinking the bike is in third gear all the time therefore eliminating the funky fuelling in first and second There should be something on here about it.

 

5 year unlimited mileage would be void as I use both for canyon riding and commuting to work this is a bad option. I have put 2500 miles on it in about a month of owning it and its not going to slow down. Going to have to learn to ride it this way for now.

Speaking of which what you doing back there now ?

 

I see a lot of people talking about this subject especially since the 2012s came out. JMHO but I really dont see it happening any time soon unless... 1. Honda starts seeing a lot of their money going into people taking their bikes into the dealer for this again and again and again under warranty. 2. People are laying down their bikes and can legally prove that the mapping was the cause and they start getting the crap sued out of them.

I think the former scenario would be more likely but I dont even see that happening. I guess I will wait and see. But in the meantime I am pretty much good with how the bike runs now modified. I would much rather spin up a cold tire with 1 and 2 derestricted than deal with the 3.5k power surge (or below 3.5k lack of power surge) in the twisties that you are describing. I feel your pain on that. It bothered me a lot too.

I'm just kind of taking a wait and see attitude on a recall or ecu fix. In the meantime, its all good.

 

That kinda off thing has been happening to me for years with bikes & cars. Last car I bought (new), went on run out 2 weeks later & could have saved $2-$3 grand, Dealership's & their salesman don't posses souls, so getting reamed by them isn't new.
I get the feeling that Honda is going to release an all new 800 soon, had my suspicions when they released the Crossrunner & a new version is inevitable & hey I just bought one & with my luck their going to sell them even cheaper, probably with hard luggage & steak knives & new model released, bigger, better & all the quirks ironed out. The Japanese have always been good at rationalisation of models (CBR600 - Hornet- R6-Fazer) Suzuki time locked their GSX750 & released the GSX750F (98), based on 95-96 GSX motor, done the same with the 650, god the 98 TL1000 donk is still being put into their V-strom. I got my B&W 800 in June, supposed to be a hard to get colour, but they seem to have heaps to sell.

 

A Honda dealer in Baton Rouge has the 2010 with a sales sticker at $11,399.

 

prices always drop in the fall, since not many people ride year round, they need to entice people a bit
dealers are always going to try to get more in the summer for the bikes, when demand is higher

 

The MSRP is $16k, that's almost $5k discount. That's not just a seasonal discount.

 

There must be a new rebate or incentive because I always check the eBay listings and a new 1200 has been going consistently between 13K and 14K. I noticed last week that all listings had the price reduced to the 11K range. For all of them to be in sync tells me that Honda has something going on. I've checked their website but have not seen anything official about it. In my mind, these prices make the bike a steal. Now is the time to buy if you're looking for one.

 

OK. It looks like Honda has updated their website since Thanksgiving. If you look at the offers for the 2010 VFR, here is what it states: "VFR1200F/FD Factory-to-Dealer Retail Rebates - Check with participating Honda Dealers for complete details. Offer good through January 31, 2012." So if anyone visits a dealer, it would be nice to know the details, but obviously, the incentive is huge.

 

Yeah the factory to Sealership rebate is cutting the cost 2500 bucks. So I have been told and seen on web. Not sure its exactly that though.

Still want them to fix the bikes first and second Gear.

 

i bought a '10 late september for $13K. i thought it was a pretty good deal at the time. but, you pays your money, and you takes your chances......or so they say.

 

Does anyone know if it makes a difference with the first and second gear issues if the problem is more or less on the dct vs the manuel shift?
I am looking to buy a 2010 vfr and I spoke with the salesman and he was not aware of a problem,but he felt that if there was an issue that the manuel version would be less likely to have a problem then the dct.

 

Can't speak for the DCT boys but it is there on the manual kinda like driving a car with a bad parking break that was left on and then you go and drive it. At 5k rpm its gone and bike fells like it really does have a 1200 engine.

Remember Dealership wants to claim not to know and I'm starting to think they really don't have guys that ride bikes sell these things. Maybe these guys are just turds in it for the paycheck and don't care if it is good. Sometimes I think many complains go unnoticed as the dealerships sweeps things under the rug

 

Thanks for the info, Getting ready to pull the trigger on a 2010 vfr. the prices are amazingly low.I might be trading in my honda 919. Wondering if buying an extended warranty might help if honda later decides to correct the second gear problem.

 

I'm still wondering if this problem is fixed with a Power Commander. Anybody? If so, then I'd skip the extended warranty and get the PC.

 

their is a mod you can do but it involves cutting into the wireing harness, fools the ecu into thinking its in 3rd gear. but causes false reading on gear readout, ie 3rd,3rd,3rd,4th,5th,6th. Back on topic, found a brand new 2010f in altus ok. for $10499. they have a few left, additional $300 for destination and prep or something, but a good deal.

 

I bought my bike last January at close to asking (I think I got OTD with full luggage for $15k) ...I'd do it all over again as the last 12,000 miles have been worth the $3k!

That said, the 1st / 2nd issue was HUGE for me and since having it fixed (with the 3rd gear hack, via Bazzaz) it has become the best bike I've ever owned. I'd even say it has surpassed my 4th gen, which has held the crown since 2005. ...but that power gap was enough to give me buyers remorse until it was fixed; seriously the WORST thing Honda has done to a bike in a long time! I can't help but wonder how many VFR faithful have taken a pass on the big 1200 just because of 1st impressions riding one like that!

It's a sad sign of Honda's trend down the corporate quarterly earnings report vs. Soichiro Honda's ambition of innovation and refinement. ...they've truly lost their way.

The most tragic part is that, obviously, the engineers and designers have it right; they not only want to make the best bikes, but they've got the skills to do it. ...the handicapping of the bottom 2 gears REEKS of senior "leadership" in the company forcing the issue for some perceived liability or emissions issue. ...a total hack on a monstrously good bike!

My hat is off to the engineers at Honda, as this bike is an absolute beast and I really hope, at some point, they will see the light an un***ck that one aspect of the VFR.

Unless Honda releases an ECU fix that runs all gears off a single mapping system (like the hack does) I'll continue to ride it with the hack, and a 3,3,3,4,5,6 dash readout; the bike is just FANTASTIC as it sits now!!!