bike acts like its out of gas but has gas

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    interceptor83 New Member

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    ok so i was out riding today after fixing my headlight. i had a problem in the fuse block whith the head light fuse terminal bein loose so i spliced in an inline fuse to fix that problem but literally i when i rode off i got bout a mile down the road and it started to bog down i could keep it alive as long as i held it it wide open but it wouldnt accelerate it would start to slow down and stay bogged down. as soon as i pulled the clutch in it cut off. if i let it sit for a while it will start back up but with hesitation. then when i ride it it bucks and kicks like its not getting fuel. please help
     


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    Before you do anything at all, go into your profile in here and put year and model of your bike, we can't help at all without that... the Mods should make this a requirement for signup.
     


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    shoot sorry forgot all bout that lol. its a 1983 honda vf750f interceptor. and my gas guage reads that fuel level is on reserve but the theres gas sloshing in tank and petcock is on reserve could the fuel level be low enough that its not flowing through the petcock hole at a constant enough rate to keep bike running.
     


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    So add some fuel and find out. If that doesn't give you a clue you'll need to check if there is gas in the carb bowls when the bike won't start. If there is then the issue is carb related which may require a rebuild. If no gas is getting to the carb bowls then you should should test the fuel pump (if applicable), and fuel filter. The issue could also be a venting issue so see if there is any difference with the gas cap open. Does using the choke have any effect? Have you checked in the tank with a flashlight for signs of rust? Have you checked all electrical connections and tested the battery with a voltmeter?

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    Actually sounds like it could easily be a clogged fuel filter or pump...
     


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    ok so i added some feul to the bike today and it seemed to fix it till i got about a mile down the road and it decided to start actin like it was runnin outta gas again. the only explanation i can think of at this point would be the fuel pump works intermittinly. like it will work when the bike first starts up cause the fuel pump is cold and has not over heated yet then as the fuel pump p\umps fuel into the float bowls it starts getting hot from all that work so that once float bowl are full the fuel cut relay kicks the fuel pump off. then once the float bowls start to run low the fuel relay trys turnin the feul pump back on but the feul pump says forget you ive done enough work. its the only explanation i can as to why it will runn just fine on initial start up and then all of a sudden (run out of gas) then after sittin for awhile start right back up and go a little farther then cut off again. tell me what you think. personally i dontt think its a clogged fuel line because if it were there would be a slow trickle of gas and when i demanded more power out of the bike it jus wouldnt go, as for my situation when its runnin right i can peg it all the way thru sixth gear and it will not bog down. so how do i rebuild these fuel pumps and where can i get the parts, if that even is my problem please help. i need this bike back on the road asap. my alternative traansportation gets about 10 mpg's lol:help:
     


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    i think you need a more professional person to mend your bike.
     


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    Not quite right on how the fuel pump/relay works.

    Here's how it works: Relay has 12v going to one side, center contact gets a signal from #2-4 cdi box when the #2/4 coil fires. So the fuel pump turns on every time #2 and #4 cylinder fires. The relay has a diode/transistor in it. gets the signal from the cdi box it turns on the diode and lets 12v from the one leg pass thru to the other leg to the fuel pump.

    So you could have a bad pump or it's ground wire, bad filter, bad relay, bad #2/4 cdi box or and connector for those elec parts.I doubt the cdi box is bad, unless #2/4 cyl are not firing at the time of the motor dieing.

    It's also possible that your tank vent is plugged and the pump can't draw against the vacuum created in the tank.

    To check the pump disconnect at the two wire connector. One wire is ground, which you can see it connected at the pump case, the other is 12v. Put 12v to the proper side and ground the other and the pump should run if it's good. Then go from there.
     


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    ^do what he said. Wire the pump up manually so you know it has power and runs. Then see what happens. If the bike dies again its either the pump cutting out or the fuel filter not allowing for enough fuel to keep the bike running longer than a mile.
     


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    so your sayin run 12 continious volts to the pump and drive it like that to see if it will run
     


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    NO. What I'm saying is hook the inlet of the pump to a fuel tank/canister with fuel in it. put the output hose into a container. Hook the pump up to 12v. The pump should pump fuel from one can in to the other.

    Leave pump run for awhile to see if it stops after getting warm or a certain period of time. If you hook the pump up directly to 12v (so it runs all the time) and ride it that way, I'm not sure what will happen. 1-nothing, 2-over flow carbs, 3-get too hot, 4-?????.
     


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