Too good to be true?

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  1. racostan

    racostan New Member

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    Hi everyone,

    When one grows older, life teaches you that if something is too good to be true, it probably is…

    I returned from a long vacation and since then I noticed a mild vibration on my 5gen VFR that is difficult to describe. (Maybe it was there before, but I was used to it?)
    It happened only at medium speeds, -and as far as I could tell- it was not coming from the engine.
    Sometimes I thought it was the gearbox, or the chain… Checked oil levels, sprocket, tension, etc and all seemed normal.

    Last weekend I stopped by my trusted mechanic (not a dealer; but very knowledgeable in Hondas –especially Goldwings)
    After confirming my original evaluation, he suggested to do a “full lubrication package”.
    He showed me an “Engine Formulation”, a “Fuel Conditioner” a “Penetrating Lubricant” and a “EP-2 Grease”

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    Since it was time for a general maintenance anyways, I agreed and left the bike.

    When I picked it up the next day, I thought he had given me a different bike!
    Throttle was smoother, I swear I feel more power, and the engine sounded also smoother. Suspension felt more responsive.

    I checked the MSP website http://www.mspglobal.com.sg/mspglobal/industrial/product.php?prod_cat_id=7

    …and I found a few things odd/weird… -especially when you look at all them together

    1. The bottle says “Made in the USA” but I couldn’t find in Google a reference to any US website… all are in Singapore, Myanmar, China, etc.
    2. The Singapore website says MSP Global HQ
    3. The website lists as the management team a Malaysian woman and a [western] guy that “has been trained in Europe and Australia”
    4. The website states that the company started in Russia.
    5. Apparently there are wonderful chemical and mechanical properties in this lubricant. Check this out: http://www.mspglobal.com.sg/mspglobal/company/why.php
    6. The brochure my mechanic showed me has a “1 million dollars insurance form” printed on it…
    7. The website says that products like these are not widely publicized because they are not in the best interest of the automotive industry. (Less wear and tear, spare parts market, etc…)

    Now, the big question is:
    “My bike is running beautifully today!... Is it going to fall apart next week?”

    Am I being to paranoiac?
    Is this really too good to be true?
    Are there any chances of these products ruining the bike in the long run?
    Had anyone else heard of MSP before? Could it be marketed under different a name in the US?

    Any comments from the forum will be appreciated.
     


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  2. Lgn001

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    This is one of those debates that could get interesting... My ex had a 1978 280Z that responded well to an oil additive called "Duralube"; it ran cooler and smoother every time we used it. I also use a product called "Rislone", also an oil additive, whenever I get a used vehicle (currently using it in a 1989 Honda Accord I just "inherited"). Rislone is essentially an internal cleanser that removes sludge, varnish, etc., and keeps it in suspension until the oil is changed. And then there is "Marvel Mystery Oil", which I've used to "unfreeze" boat engines with good success.

    I've personally never heard of MSP before, but I wouldn't worry about it too much, other than it possibly making the clutch slip (their website doesn't list motorcycles on the application list). It might be worth sending them an email to see if they recommend against it for wet clutches.
     


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  3. Rollin_Again

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    Sorry I don't know anything about the products you mentioned above but I do have some magic beanstalk beans for sale. PM if interested

    All kidding aside, even a simple oil change can make a bike feel completely different. I've used Seafoam treatments for years. While I feel it is a good additive and has many benefits, I've never seen a drastic difference in performance. This company states their products are not widely publicized because they are not in the best interest of the automotive industry is bullshit. Trust me, if this product worked so well it would already be a standard in the industry and the inventor a very rich man.

    Rollin
     


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    Looks like it is marketed under the Polytron brand in the US.

    Welcome to Paradise Ventures

    Graphics and layout are different but most of the sections are word by word the same as in the MSP website...
     


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