Solution for Rider fatigue

Discussion in 'General VFR Discussions' started by Chicky, Mar 7, 2011.

  1. ZenMoto

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    Well, I'm just reporting back from 7th gen land. I was unable to get the vibes reduced using the Vib with my Throttlemeister; the RPMs at which the vibes might have shifted, but did not improve. ...so I spent another $40 to get the bar end weights that go with the Vib and removed the T'meister completely. ...the vibes are actually worse now than they were with just the T'meister installed. In fact, my clutch hand now goes to sleep since I removed the OEM insert to install the Vibranator and it never did that before!. :(

    I'm really bummed, as I REALLY wanted this to work. ...sadly, it does not.

    Now I'm not sure if I'll be able to re-install the OEM insert; bur the Vib is coming out, completely.

    I'm going back to the T'meister setup and I'm going to change grips to sone of the ProGrip dual-comound gel grips to see if that gets me to a happy place. I rode toe Hermosa Beach and back, about 80 miles round trip, and my hands went to sleep so often I actually had to pull of the road to make the numbness go away! *grrrrr*

    So if you have a 7th gen, I'd have to recommend not using the Vibranator. I'm glad it seems to be working so well for other VFRs, but it's just not cutting it on the 7th gen for whatever reason.
     


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    If a vibrinater is put in upsidedown or backward, does it then become a vibrator ?

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    Karen, did you ask don about using them with heli bars? The reason I ask is because I tried installing them and the install tool (read bolt) broke off in my left hand bar. Now not only do I not have vibranators, I don't have bar ends. It makes me wonder if heli bars have the inserts welded in or something. I mean they didn't budge at all. I'm not sure what to do now since this is my only set of bars and my primary transport. I guess for now I'll just ride without either.
     


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    Hey Reg,
    Wow, that sucks!!! I'm sorry that happened to you! I never asked Don about Heli bars because somewhere on this thread others answered that question. There's at least one member using them with the Heli bars and he said they worked great. I can't imagine how that bold would break off. I'm at work an unfortunately today is a busy day. But you might scroll back a little bit and see if you can find the person who has the heli bars. Maybe ask him if he had any issues. If you don't get anywhere, let me know and I'll see if I can find that person. Will you be able to get that out with needlenose pliers or tweezers or something?

    As you know, everybody's been loving the VBs but they DO have a 30 day money back guarantee so if for some reason you decide to return them, you can.... keep me posted!

    Karen
     


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    Just thought of this and I don't think it's the same thing but.... when my inserts came out they were corroded beyond belief... so were Marrib's. Another member on here mentioned the same thing. I wonder if your inserts are corroded... maybe the bolt didn't break off so much as the insert itself? I'm not there so don't know what you are looking at but it's just another viewpoint....
     


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    One of my inserts was also heavily corroded, one was fine and pulled out easily; the other was corroded and was significantly more difficult to remove. I actually had to destroy it to remove it. This was on the OEM bars mind you. Easy enough to email or call Heli though and ask if the inserts were ever welded in.
     


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    I have Heli's on my 6th gen, don't know how different they are on the 5th. No welded inserts though, the stock vibration dampers were installed on mine, just popped em out and installed the Vibrinators.
     


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    BTW, hey Karen, any word from Don yet on the peg dampers??
     


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    Hmm. Well I'll try and go down south and see if Tori or Brian have something to get the old things out.
     


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    Tried the VFRWorld coupon code and could not get it to work. I sent Don an email asking if the discount expired or if the code was now something different.... awaiting his reply
     


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    I bet that they expire after xxxx number of days (looks like 90 in this case perhaps). Let us know how it goes.
     


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    I was over at Don's shop at lunchtime and asked him about the coupon code. He says they DO expire periodically and I guess they all expire at the same time. He said all of them are in expiration mode right now and he has a message out to the guy that maintains them to re-activate them. Unfortunately, he's on a trip on the east coast for some demo to some company or something. Don is hoping he will get the email and re-activate the codes in the next couple days or so. Keep trying it every 2 or 3 days and eventually it will start working again... sorry for the inconvenience...

    Metallican, as for the foot peg dampners, I know he hasn't had time to look at that yet... the last few weeks have been totally focused on some suspension tuning and testing for Chuck Son's dirt race bike. Apparently, they were working on it 24/7 in bursts.... hopefully they will get to look at the peg dampners soon. I'll try to keep up on that and keep you posted....
     


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    Cool, thanks again Karen!!!!!!!
     


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    so far... I got nuthin'

    no reply, no change on the website :frown:
     


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    Don has apparently been very busy lately, he has many projects going on all at the same time (sounds familiar) He will help us out and hook us up, we must have patience.
     


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    The best deal would be to hear from the horses mouth instead of lip service from third parties. Gotta figure that if this guy is having problems here, there are problems elsewhere. Not good for his biz or his rep IMO.
     


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    Don is a small shop ya'll. They are on the verge of making it into some of the "heavy hitter suppliers" so that you won't get to (or have to, whichever you prefer) deal directly with them anymore, you will be dealing with the "big guys". They are busy on many different projects for production, getting race bikes up to snuff for races, etc. I think this is why many American businesses fail. China just hires thousands of people and pays them a penny a day to make cheap products that break a day after the warranty is up, so they have high production from the get go. Here in America, people try to be fair, pay a fair wage, provide a quality product that actually DOES something unique... but we dumb Americans are too impatient to wait... we want it yesterday. I completely understand how, when you give someone your credit card, you expect your item to be shipped that day or the next, and you expect to get a live person when you call each and every time. Don's shop is not a huge company... it's the typical story of "the little guy with a big idea" attempting to make it, and he's just in that fine line where he's got a ton of orders, but not enough to truly grow the business just yet....

    I answer for Don because I'm the one that recommended his product to the group and I feel some responsibility to VFRWorld... and because people post on this thread. If you think you'd rather hear it from Don, Badbilly, then perhaps you should call him directly instead of posting here on the thread. I see him fairly regularly and I know what he's dealing with, and I just ask everyone to be patient. They are all dong what they can to keep up over there. Trust me, if I thought there was a problem with them taking your money and not providing product or not responding, I would be the first to tell you. The intentions of Don and everyone at Vibranator/Ricor Shocks are all for the highest good. There is only so much time in a day....
     


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    Hate to say it - people would like you to believe this but it's just not true. Mostly the people in government more worried about passing social reforms than dealing with economic issues (i.e. it's not our fault China has low labor) or business owners making excuses for their own ability to compete in a world market (i.e. it's not my fault China has low labor...)

    China has grown past the point of cheap labor. They've learned to put capital up front and automate. Their quality has improved while part costs continue to go down because they've learned to use machines to do manual labor. Instead of paying a laboror to flip a part around in a machine, they spend the extra $30k to have a machine that will work both sides for them. In the US, people want to buy the 3axis Haas for $60k while China, Korea, and Taiwan buy 5 axis machines and make parts with half the labor of the US.

    Would we hire someone to dig a ditch by shovel in this country today? No, we have machines that do it and no one would want the job anyway. Manufacturing is no different. With automated machines, one guy can do five times the work of the same man 30 years ago. Only in this country most businesses are using 30 year old technology and complaining about Asia taking our jobs using current technology.

    If it weren't for government jobs that CAN'T go overseas, there would probably be half as much manufacturing in this country as there is today. And manufacturing jobs are what builds a countries wealth. You need to build a product or you have nothing. We can only trade dollar for
    dollar in one hotel service job to another for so long before the country is BROKE.

    And, as much of a free market guy as I am, I've realized that Wallstreet and Corporate America is as big a cause of the problem as anyone else. There was a day in this country when a family owned a business and tried to build something for generations to come. Now we have lazy corporate guys with MBA's that only care about the next quarter's earning report and the next dividend payout. They don't do the work to invest in a company for the long term (i.e. buying equipment to make a product here, take a loss this quarter for a larger return two years from now). Instead it's easier to walk into a purchasing agents office and tell him to get a bid in Asia rather than buying the $150k machine here and protect some American jobs WHILE making the same part competitively with the world market.

    We can make low cost parts quickly in the US too if the govt made it a priority to help guys like Don with a product and an idea rather than trying to make his life harder (i.e. healthcare non-reform)

    Sorry, carry on.... Manufacturing and business is close to my heart and I just couldn't resist piping up. Sounds like he's got a great product and I'm rooting for him. As an American, we all need guys like this to succeed.

    Interesting story about a US manufacturer who changed his shop around to receive small lot size orders at 9am and ship product by 5pm the same day:
    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3101/is_5_79/ai_n27014831/
     
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    So, is the phone working now? Hopefully the thing wasn't made in China and has to be tossed out every few days.
     


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    ....and their flied lice is real good too.
     


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