Anyone else talking RACING?! <--- of the motorcycle type

Good on Ianone in Moto2, too bad for Marquez and I'm still very disappointed in Kenan...

 

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What he said.......

Iannone is fast becoming the new rising star, as mentioned before in this thread, he has figured out how to carry corner speed.

Marquez has had some seriously bad luck.

Jerez and the rain were hopefully aberrations and hopefully we wont be treated to rain races too many more times this year, or maybe some are hoping we will, since they seem to throw all the normal factors out the window. This was true a couple years back, and it is even more impressive watching these guys do what they do in wet conditions. Its impressive to watch someone getting a bit of air under the rear wheel braking for a corner in the rain.

Maybe the three Honda factory riders can enlist Simoncelli and the Hondas can surround Rossi on all sides the entire race and force him to do pit ride-throughs every lap until he stops taking out race leaders with ill advised moves.

Or Rossi and Lorenzo can stage hip-hop dance offs on a stage erected next to the podium after races.

Another suggestion would be to hire dozens more course workers and have them designated as teams that only push certain rider's bikes to bump start them.

Here's to Pedrosa coming back from his physical ailments quickly, lest he continue his quest to become the modern-day Randy Mamola.

These ideas are completely my own, if I see it used anywhere else, I expect to get paid. You feelin me, Kropotkin?

 

I want to hear Rossi's manager blame Stoner for the crash... just to mimic Puig from 2006 when Pedrosa pull the same shit on Hayden - on a dry track. This dust-up is not that bad, watching Max slap Marco was more entertaining.

 

Rossi's Team manager of 11 years JB is way too quietly spoken to get involved in any media bun fights and is on record to having great respect for the way Casey rides.

Look up "Jeremey Burgess" in Wikipedia I rate him among the top 10 most interesting people ever in MotoGP what Wiki doesn't mention is his love of working on his run down family farm in the off seasons where he mends fences and old farm machinary with whatever he has available.

 

So what's your opinion John451? If we see a marked improvement in the Duc's results rather quickly then it's Burgess and his skills, if we don't, is it that Vale's skills are finally diminishing? Going back to 05 and that silly fanboi book about Vale, Vale's entire reason for racing is supposedly that he wants to prove that its the rider and not the bike. Ostensibly that is also the reason Vale wants Burgess with him wherever he goes.

 

Sorry for sounding a bit of a JB fan boy but we've probably seen a lot more of him in local Sports news as he was seen as the man behind Wayne Gardner and Mick Doohans successes before he helped bring Rossi to Honda. Jeremy has said in an interview it's 80 percent about the rider when it comes to winning which was at odds with what Honda were saying after Rossi left them for Yamaha where Honda basically stated their bikes would win MotoGP even with a chimp riding.

IMHO JB wont rush into fixing everything on the Ducati rather he will have already carefully thought about what needs doing before progressivly working with both Rossi and the Ducati engineers to get the bike to handle and go as Rossi likes it. Rossi ( like Stoner, Lorenzo, Pedrosa and Spies ? ) is still a freak of a rider and will "for sure" improve his position over the next few races to be up the pointy end by seasons end.

 

I wasnt thinking you were a fanboy, more commenting on how inane the Rossi autobiography of a few years back seemed to me, I was looking for some kind of real tech insight into Burgess, Vale, and what obstacles they had to overcome back in the day when they first took over the Yamaha effort . By the time I finished the book I wanted to throw it at my bud that gave it to me to read for subjecting me to such tripe. What I came away with was either Vale is never going to give up the real secrets behind what it takes to take over a new racing effort and make it competitive or the entire book was an exercise in making a shitload of bucks off the Rossi mystique and was simply nothing more than that.

Given the injury issues we keep hearing about that are supposedly holding back the effort, I honestly dont know what to think about what's real, what's hype, and whether any amount of old school magic can bring the Ducs back to the pointy end.

Lost in all this bs are the efforts Hayden has put forth, you cant tell me that everyone at Ducati were idiots before Vale and his entourage showed up to save the day

 

Agree it would have been interesting to see what they found and how they sorted Yamaha at the time, wonder if the Mick Doohan autobiography would be better describing how challanges were meet ?. I have a personally signed copy of Wayne Gardners Story from '89 must see what it says about his relationship with JB.

Interestingly I watched a local Sports TV presenters interview with Hayden this morning congratulating his podium in Jerez, he strongly communicated his wish that Ducati could sort out the front end this season.

Not idiots but Casey was on record last year saying that the Ducati engineers would do things like change the front end 3 times during qualifying to try and sort out the front end but were not communicating what changes they were making with him. This suggests to me they'd given up working the problem through rather were chaotically hoping some random inspiration ( eg winglets ) would fix it. This lack of communication between rider and factory engineers I'm guessing wont be tolerated under JB which can only benefit Hayden as well.

 

HYPE? WE DON NEED NO STEENKIN HYPE! We need columns of numbers and a TeeVee. With all this I am beginning to believe there really is pre-race stragegy going on and that those fast dudes may even be trying to psych each other.

Off to WalMart to buy myself some Kleenex.

 

Rossi rides the Ducati GP12 at Jerez

Looks like Ducatis already sorting the 1000 out for next year.

" Valentino Rossi took his first laps aboard the Ducati GP12 Friday morning on the Andalusian circuit in Jerez de la Frontera on a day that was sunny and warm (29° air, 41° track; 84° and 106° Fahrenheit, respectively), with the only imperfection being a strong wind. The Italian took to the circuit a few minutes after 11:00 and did a first run of six laps. With that outing having been completed with no problems, the work continued apace for the entire day, by the end of which Valentino had turned 50 laps.

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“I’m happy,” Valentino Rossi said after the test. “I like the GP12. In my opinion, it’s more enjoyable, more fun to ride. It was the first time we had it on the track, so we had some work to do, but the engine is nicer. It’s a lot of fun, and you can do some nice slides. It’s the bike we’ll ride next year, so it was very important—and also very nice—to be among the first to take it on the track.” "



Rossi rides the Ducati GP12 at Jerez

 

Under those conditions we could all go that fast.. Me and Rossi are official soul brothers. I have an AGV helmet.


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Probably the girl thing. George likes boys I hear.

 

Oops, thought I'd gotten away with it. :redface: :biggrin:

 

So how many bad puns are there in OZ about WallabyMart?

 

None, we have KMarts everywhere but no Wallmarts however I did see the South Park ep " Something Wallmart this way comes " so have been pre warned about them.

Back to Racing, I had to feel a little sorry for MotoGPs nice guy Colin Edwards who had been looking good for a possible podium at Jerez before coming unstuck, excellent photo though shows he wasn't giving up easily.

 

The WalMart motto (moto?) is, "You're Next!"

The barrage of the combination of "If I were running things" , inside info that doesn't exist, psychological profiling of guys who are so fast we mere mortals have no fucking idea what its like, and the wishing in one hand and shitting in the other using data points to predict outcomes is much like putting Muhammad Ali and Joe Louis in the same ring.

Having some experience not in road racing but in flat track, where the best I can say is that I was out there having fun the average dude in the stands or watching the telly or now sitting in a comfy ergonomic chair hammering on a keyboard doesn't really "know" squat.

The pic of CE kissing the tarmac illustrates the point I think. "Shit Happens!" When those multi-million dollar unobtanium bikes slide along at over 100mph, the chances that the machine is still ridable much less competitive at any level is small.



Back to my new Walmart VHS tape of tractor pulls and destruction derby.

 

Sheesh, do you go over to the cancer ward in your spare time and tell everyone " What's the use, no need to talk about your condition, and stop second guessing the doctors, you're gonna die soon."? Then a quick run past the school to inform the kiddies that they're probably adopted. That should leave you just enough time to stop by anyone you may know with an artistic leaning, where you can inform them "Give it up asshole, you'll never amount to anything, why do you even bother, no one likes your stuff and you suck"

Yeah we get it, its a futile exercise to keep talking about racing like you could somehow have some effect on the outcome, dont know how we missed that message since you have repeated, oh, ten times at least. Believe it or not, we....got...it....the ....first....time . Gosh, thanks for that fucking stunning insight, whats next?....you're gonna tell us the NBA is populated largely by tall black men and therefore we should never speak of it again, because doing so would have no effect on the score? Holy shit Captain Obvious, glad you are here to help us out.

Get a dog so you can kick it or something, damn. :joker: Then make sure and tell it " No matter what anyone anywhere says, you'll always be a fucking dog, so just quit thinking about it and stop liking anything because thats just how it is" Then repeat it about ten times until he bites you.

For goodness sakes, its just people bullshitting around about something they're passionate about. Heaven forbid anyone should enjoy themselves. Those Jesuits must have beat you hard in school.

 

Don't acknowledge the troll. Trolls can live without food or water, they survive by rereading their own remarks and the expected responses that people have to them....what is fatal to trolls is lack of attention and acknowledgement. If you want the troll to go away, just ignore it, it will slowly die.


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I can skip to the "what's next?" part and send you most of my brand new box of Kleenex.

 

Captain Obvious strikes again.

 

Well said. After all behind Family, health, friends and riding motorcycles the next most important thing in life is Beer and Circuses followed by talking crap about beer and circuses, MotoGP has long been the circus I enjoy most.