Construction Workers Beat Down School Shooter

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  1. mrvfr

    mrvfr Banned

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    though walking into a group of children and shoot is not a matter of not getting along with people. he has some serious issues that he might never get over.

    though thats what happens when you let your children be raised by a gang of peopel that thrive on violance and drugs.
     
  2. tinkerinWstuff

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    you better watch more Discovery or Nat-Geo, animals absolutely kill or shun others of the same breed who do not get along with the group.
     
  3. mrvfr

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    i know you are talking about me. and in doing so you are basicially saying that you are no more intelligen than an animal...

    can we get back to the topic please. if you want to argue thats fine but can we please not do it in someone elses thread...
     
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  5. crustyrider

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    where does it say they enjoyed beating him? and what revenge? they sudued a guy that was shooting into a school yard.... and the guy is lucky that he is alive....
     
  6. drewl

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    YES

    Any puke that shoots at kids on a playground deserves to die. Plain and simple.
    Act like an animal, get put down like an animal.
     
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    I am not going to get into the debate about gun ownership of capital punishment. Or if these guys used more force that what was necessary to subdue this deranged shooter. But get back to the subject. They are heroes. They ran towards the fight for the protection of our most precious segment of society giving little thought to their own safety. I hope that I would do the same. They would definitely get my personal praises should the opportunity ever arise.
     
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    you would have popped a cap in his ass Randy....


    and yeah the guys are heroes.any ony that runs into a the line of fire with disregard to their own safety. and thinking only of others.. are true heroes.
     
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    Absolutely
    Without a doubt
     
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    yes. you summarize my sentiment well. if you try to kill kids you are no use in society. just dead weight.
     
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    well said sir.
     
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    "so because he tried to murder someone, it is then morally ok for the men that had already stopped him to murder him?"

    When he pulled the trigger when pointing a gun at kids (people) he lost all his rights at that moment. For he ignored and violated everybody's else rights. IMHO I don't think I'd hesitate to run him over if I was behind the wheel and then backup to boot. He was trying to kill people and he has no right to do that. Those workers had to do what they had to do to not only subdue him. But to make it impossible for him to get free and try it again. As far as morally ok. For me it's yes, cause morally for me it's to stop people like that and make sure they can't get up to do it again.

    I applaud those guys.:clap2:
     
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    someone should have just shot him between the eyes, now we have to feed him and house him, watch it Gloria Allred will probably be his lawyer
     
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    If the guy shooting at the kids got roughed up or even killed while being stopped from endangering those children, so be it ! Now that the attack is over and he is in police custody all of his rights and privileges need to be protected until his trial or placement in a mental institution. (we are a nation conceived in law)
    While he had a gun and was attacking children or any other innocent persons my concern for his well being is minimal at best. His lack of concern for the rights of the people he was shooting at should dictate our level of concern for his rights. If he is mentally disturbed, as I suspect, it is unfortunate that he was damaged during his capture, but the point is to minimize the damage he is doing. Police can afford to show restraint, they have the tools and training to use minimal force to control the situation. Three construction workers likely do not. Using the maximum available force available to them would be the best choice, as their aim was to protect the children not the rights of the attacker.

    I have to say that if I were ever to be so mentally confused that I would fire a gun at an innocent child, I pray, that whatever hero was there would apply deadly force to me ( successfully ).

    Those guys did the right thing. " John 15:13 Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. "

    Dave :cool:
     
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    I believe in using the least amount of force needed to counter the threat, in my job it is Biblical. That said, if the only way to stop the guy is permanently, so be it.
     
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    First id like to say its refershing to be able to have a conversation here without being bashed over and over.

    what you said cyborg is exactly how i feel. and if someone was attacking my family i would use as much force as i had to or could to subdue the threat. but once the threat is over, i will not keep going for my own amusement, fun, revenge.

    the way I read the story; and ill be the first one to tell you that simple text communication is NOT enough to get but a part of the picture; is that the 3 men subdued the guy, and then kept beating him.

    "The suspect took a beating" "once they tackled him"

    the way this reads to me is they subdued the man by hitting him with a car, and tackeling him. and then after he was subdued they did not stop beating him untill the police arived

    "The suspect took a beating" "The group kept the man subdued until police arrived."

    but again, this is simply a mear interpitation of the story. none of us were there, none of us know what really happoned.

    and frankly, this is most likely a very exaderated version from the recolection of emotional neighbors. not to mention the reporter had to dramatize it to keep readers attention.

    but either way you look at it, those men are among the bravest of us to run directly into fire.
     
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    Its a big mean world out there and bad shit happens all the time.

    I won't be losing any sleep because some guys kept a maniac from killing some children and then beat the shit out of him, if that's what they did.

    You can't save everyone, just try not to live next door to them when they go off.
     
  18. Fazer1Sniper

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    Great story. Shame it's not a CCW state.
     
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    Only problem with that, given the general public's firearm training and accuracy, the guy in the driveway would be suing the three over getting shot in the leg. And there would be the 2 dead school teachers, plus the exploded bus, one wounded shooter himself after firing in to his own foot...

    Better to be unarmed brave heroes, which they were. I still might have backed over the guy once or twice, accidentally of course.
     
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    No, but it is an unloaded open carry state. And you can load up in a few seconds, so why bother w/ CCW permits?
     
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