Quote: Originally Posted by chesthing Sure seems you have a lot to say about bikes you've never ridden...again, what bike are you riding right now? I have ridden the following bikes. Ninja 250. 99 CBRF4I. 04 Sold CBR600RR. 06 Actually I have just returned from the Honda dealership he has two VFR's in stock a 06, and 07 with the new retro paint scheme. He also has a bunch of 05 CBR 1000RR, and one red 06 CBR1000rr to me the CBR1000RR does not feel that aggressive, the setting position is very comfortable for me. The CBR 600RR is a pure track bike, and has a much more aggressive riding position, the CBR600RR is the true MOTOGP replica. The CBR1000RR feels great for street use, but that is because I am use to a very low aggressive position on the CBR600RR. Which is great at the track. As a track weapon you cannot beat the 600RR. The CBR1000RR seems to have more leg room, And also feels narrower when you sit on it compared to the CBR600RR. I also sat on the VFR feels very similar to the CBR to me clip-on a bit higher, great bike. You guy's ride a great bike, and you can get that bike around pretty well, I am inclined towards the sport side my self. I still have my Ninja 250 it's a lot of fun. but I need to do some mods to it the suspension is not up to the job when riding hard the back end has a tendency to feel loose when changing direction at high speed, but you can drag your knee on the stock tires. I do a lot of my cornering practice on the Ninja, once you have it nailed on the Ninja it is easy to take it to the 600, but if you try things on the 600 first it takes a lot longer to get it right. So my advice to anyone who wants to do some real technical riding the Ninja 250 is a great bike to have in the garage. The other good thing is that you can drop it and not be too concerned, if I dropped mine I would only fix what has to be fixed. I do not agree with the Reg Pridmore style of cornering, but on the street I do not use a track line, Reg is correct that you do not want to be in the middle of the road on a tight right hand corner. I use the Keith Codes method on the track I go deep into the corner, then flick it over fast, and open the throttle as early as possible and accelerate through the turn. TOW2 by Keith covers all these issues. Keith actually used the Ninja 250 at his schools for a long time, I now know why. I was watching Reg last night on his web site videos, Reg is a feel rider, not a technical rider, very effective, but I think he could have been even better, he does not get off the bike as much as you think, but he his older now, but still a great rider. He uses the VFR as a camera bike, and rides it well, so the VFR can move. The Honda dealer called, and I have a great price on a 07 red CBR1000RR. Very comfortable super bike. Hope this does not supset anyone.
Hey no upset here. Good to hear what you're up to. Funny, I've done both Keith and Reg and now have my own approach to how to attack, so it' all good. wouldn't think everyone has the same riding style, but technique is for the most part all the same. If Reg thought it do him better to hang more then he would, funny thing about that, I've rode with some fast dudes that know their stuff, some hang some don't, it's all about how you apply what you have both in machine and yourself. Hey I've eyed that 1000rr especially the 06 model a time or two but now a 1098 is calling me. agree too to the 600rr is a scapple.
I spent a day one on one with lee parks early this year, we spent the day going around a 30 ft figure of eight, Lee is very particular about hanging off. Lee's approach is close to Keith codes approach to cornering. The funny thing about hanging off is that there are a lot of good riders that get the lower part of the body off witht he knee down but the top half is back across the center of the tank. If you look at the very best riders from behind their spine angle is close to the lean angle of the bike and is a straight line and way to the inside of the center tank line. Next year 07 I am going to spend a day with Doug Chandler he comes here once a year, only has four riders in the class he is racing superbike in the AMA at the moment, and was tained by Keith, if you look at the champions trained by keith code it is hard to pick fault with his methods, all I can say is it works for me. The CBR1000RR is more comfortable than you think, it has a much better seat than the CBR600RR. The new CBR600RR is even more of a track machine but i think the Ergos are a little better than the 06.
Just came back from a run on the CBR600RR, it's a great track bike but no so great on the street. The bike runs sweet, and smooth when it is reved high but the engine is definetly not setup for the street riding RPM range. Lot's of fast gear changing to keep the engine in the right RPM range. What I would realy like is a VFR, and a CBR600RR. The super sports bikes are the hardest to ride on the street.
I've often thought that myself...Mind the VFR is a brilliant "single" bike only to be stuck with. :smile:
