VFR or ZX 14 or CBR1000RR

I am looking at getting oneof the bike listed above, the VFR is cheaper by
a lot different from the CBR ther ZX 14 seems to be great value, and a great touring bike too.

James.

 

I am calmly waiting for the Concours 14. I'd suggest waiting for it too, if you can. If you can't, then I'd suggest the ZX-14 or the Triumph ST.

 

Those are very very different bikes.

 

You need to work out what your requirements and current abilities are. The VFR is a great, easy to ride, comfortable, competently sporty and well built road bike.

Both the CBR1000RR and ZX-14 will eat it HP wise, question is if you need or can use that extra power.

 

That is a good point about the HP, part of the VFR issue is that it seems outdated compared to the ZX-14, and CBR1000RR.

I am looking for a bike I can cover some miles on, but is able to handle the curves as well, my local dealer has a white 06 VFR, and a 07 VFR in the retro paint scheme. the VFR's do not sell as well as the CBR's for sure.
5 11 190 lbs, I can fit on almost any bike. the VFR is cheaper than the ZX-14, and CBR1000RR.

VFR is a good well rounded bike.

Thanks. James.

 

The CBR; for most, is not a bike to put miles on. That just isn't what it is designed for. But if you can do it, than more power to you.

Have you called your insurance agent, and found out how much each are to get covered, you might be surprised.

When I had a CBR600F3 and a BMW K1200RS at the same time, the CBR was more to insure than the BMW. Even though the BMW was worth about twice as much, and had twice the CC's. I don't remember the exact numbers, but it was a BIG difference.

When I had in very quick succession, the FJR, the FZ6, and then the VFR again; the FJR was the cheapest insurance, even though it was the most expensive, had the largest engine and had the most power; the VFR was a slight bump up from that, and the FZ6 was the most expensive of the 3, by a pretty fair chunk.

The CBR will likely be the most fun in the curves, but it depends on how tight. Really tight stuff would be more fun on a CBR600RR. The VFR probly the 2nd most fun.

For long tours you are talking the VFR and the Zx-14. I haven't ridden the 14 for any serious distance, but I would guess the VFR would beat it by a slight margin. But the extra power would be nice. The CBR would be downright painful for most over a couple hundred miles.

The VFR does what it does very very well, it is an excellent all arounder bike.

 

A guy I talked to who was into his third month on a ZX-14 said he lovedthe "straight ahead" performance of that bike but was disappointed in the twisties. He suggested the bike just isn't (shouldn't) be considered a bike for that kind of riding. I'd agree with Spike, in that I wanted a CBR but I ride too many miles per year to consider it for comfort sake. That's why my primary ride is the VFR -- it is a fun "compromise" and my insurance isn't too bad, either.

 

All these bikes are great, it makes it a difficult decision, the ZX-14 has nice instrument features. in the end it comes down to what moves you,I think it is between the VFR,and the ZX-14, VFR is less to insure that is for sure.

James.

 

Sure seems you have a lot to say about bikes you've never ridden...again, what bike are you riding right now?

 

Not again. This guys trying to bait everyone again. After this post I'm ignoring him, I hope everyone else will do the same.

 

Ditto to that

 

Guys, it is not "not again". This post has been around since Dec 5 and the last post, not counting todays posts, was on the 7th. So with todays replies it got bumped to the top. And up until todays posts, I see nothing inflamatory or baiting about this thread. The original poster never said he had not ridden any of those bikes, though it could be infered. I myself do not know if he has or has not. I have never met him nor do I know anything about his background experiences. I can read his posts and make decisions based on what is posted here. I can take advice or I can leave it. I can shoose to be upset by what is posted or not. Again, nothing in this thread, until today, would I consider baiting. Maybe todays post is not intended as such.

 

I didn't realize that this was an older thread. However, just look at the majority of his posts, and I think its obvious he's just trying to get a rise out of us. If I have misunderstood him, then I apologize.

 

I have ridden the following bikes.

Ninja 250. 99
CBRF4I. 04 Sold
CBR600RR. 06

Actually I have just returned from the Honda dealership he has two VFR's in stock a 06, and 07 with the new retro paint scheme.
He also has a bunch of 05 CBR 1000RR, and one red 06 CBR1000rr to me the CBR1000RR does not feel that aggressive, the setting position is very comfortable for me.

The CBR 600RR is a pure track bike, and has a much more aggressive riding position, the CBR600RR is the true MOTOGP replica. The CBR1000RR feels great for street use, but that is because I am use to a very low aggressive position on the CBR600RR. Which is great at the track. As a track weapon you cannot beat the 600RR. The CBR1000RR seems to have more leg room,
And also feels narrower when you sit on it compared to the CBR600RR.

I also sat on the VFR feels very similar to the CBR to me clip-on a bit higher, great bike. You guy's ride a great bike, and you can get that bike around pretty well, I am inclined towards the sport side my self.

I still have my Ninja 250 it's a lot of fun. but I need to do some mods to it the suspension is not up to the job when riding hard the back end has a tendency to feel loose when changing direction at high speed, but you can drag your knee on the stock tires.

I do a lot of my cornering practice on the Ninja, once you have it nailed on the Ninja it is easy to take it to the 600, but if you try things on the 600 first it takes a lot longer to get it right.
So my advice to anyone who wants to do some real technical riding the Ninja 250 is a great bike to have in the garage. The other good thing is that you can drop it and not be too concerned, if I dropped mine I would only fix what
has to be fixed.

I do not agree with the Reg Pridmore style of cornering, but on the street I do not use a track line, Reg is correct that you do not want to be in the middle of the road on a tight right hand corner.

I use the Keith Codes method on the track I go deep into the corner, then flick it over fast, and open the throttle as early as possible and accelerate through the turn. TOW2 by Keith covers all these issues. Keith actually used the Ninja 250 at his schools for a long time, I now know why.

I was watching Reg last night on his web site videos, Reg is a feel rider,
not a technical rider, very effective, but I think he could have been even better, he does not get off the bike as much as you think, but he his older now, but still a great rider. He uses the VFR as a camera bike, and rides it well, so the VFR can move.

The Honda dealer called, and I have a great price on a 07 red CBR1000RR.
Very comfortable super bike.

Hope this does not supset anyone.

 

Thanks for the answer. 'bout all I can say is good luck going from a 250 Ninja to an '07 liter bike.

 

Thanks. For your concern. But I will do fine.
I will always continue to ride the Ninja, it's the only bike that you can take to the red line and stay out of jail.

One of things which I think is very important to understand about riding motorcycles is that it is dangerous.

Every time we ride, or change bikes we need to ask ourselves are you
Willing to live with the consequences of you actions, this also means
death. As long as you are comfortable with this, and you have arrangements
to take car of your loved ones, then this is all we can do.

I am 100% responsible, 100% of the time for my actions.
I believe this attitude is very important on a motorcycle.

We do not have accidents on a motorcycle we have a crash; crashes are the result of a series of events that lead to a crash.

Such as moving from a 600CCRR/F4i to a CBR1000RR without spending time, in the parking lot adjusting to the new bike, it takes about 5 months of riding to get use to a new bike.

Most accidents occur within the first six months of getting a new bike.

People talk about smooth throttle but equally important is the clutch,
lots a talk about slipper clutches, but we already have one in our right hand.

So I dont not think it is luck it's just about having a plan.
But when riding any motorcycle things can, and will go wrong.
We all have to be prepared to live with our decisions.
I am.

I hope you are also comfortable with your decisions.

 

vrf is kinda nice.. zx1400 would be same kinda thing with mucho hp, the concours is a heavyweight..very nice, but not same class bike as the vfr.
I think a zx1400 is in my plans....
buy em all!!

NN

 

You open the throttle on a newer liter bike and you'll simply flip right over onto your head. I've been riding a long time and have owned many different bikes, but I just wouldnt enjoy riding something with that kind of power on the street. I like to redline my bikes and actually use the power they have - call me crazy.