How do i go about testing mys tator

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    Battery keeps going dead causing the bike to stop running.
     


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    its a 95 750f
     


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    Your tator should be golden brown on the outside and slightly crispy to eat.
     


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    Have you check the regulator/rectifier and the wiring conected to it? I only ask because the stators do not fail often but the R/R's and the wiring always go bad.
     


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    Had the same issue. Bike would drain a battery in a matter of minutes. Ended up being the R/R but I had disassembled the stator and rotor assembly prior to running through the repair manual for that bike. It resulted in having to buy new gaskets from Babbittsonline.com and waiting two weeks to reassemble the alternator.
    If you can use a multimeter and have the repair manual you can follow the steps towards pin pointing the problem. Also, don't drop the $200+ for the OEM R/R. There are plenty of people selling cheaper replacements.
     


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    Please dont say RR, those cost even more.

    my meter done did broke so im knda stuck, i will check the connections though, maybe ill get lucky
     


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    You cannot see electrons, you can only measure them. You need to get a new volt ohm meter.

    Why do you think the stator is no good?


    Do you have a good reason? Some scientific evidence?

    You must get a HONDA workshop manual. Other wise you are lost.
     
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    you can disconnect the stator from where it comes out of the cover on the left side of the motorcycle. then you can take ur trusty fluke meter and measure it as AC . there are values in the good book, if its off its ur stator.
     


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    I agree with Toe, stators almost never go bad. How ever if you did toast one, your more than likely going to need a RR as that would be mostly why it toasted. Unless when taking your stator out you see peices falling off or your meter shows a open coil or a short to frame. You need a multimeter to even begin to solve this one. Follow the shop manuals proceedure and it will take you about 10mins to verify the stator and eliminate $500 part. And please do not use the "diode" beep tester setting to verify that the coil is good, use the resistance setting and write down the measured value, they should be similar.
     


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    well i have obtained a meter. next is the manual then try to figure out what the heck im doin.

    the battery keeps going dead and then the bike does nothing. i charged the battery and had it tested and it tested good.

    so something is keeping the battery from being charged. i suspect it is getting some charge. after charging it with a charger i can ride for somewhere around an hour which seems like a long time strictly on battery.

    i drove several blocks to advance and autozone the back. let it idle while i showered. then drove 5 min to the highway and a couple miles on the highway (slow and on the solder as the highway was at a standstill. then another 15 min through town. stopped to pickup a box and the battery couldent start the bike. push started then drove through town for a few more minutes and it was dead, gages cut off while i was driving then it slowed to a stop at the bottom of the hill. i then proceeded to push the bike up the hill several miles.
     


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    You are doing it right. A manual and meter. Solid start. It is better to have the book and not online version, because the book has photos and you can use a magnifying glass if you have to. The online thing is lousy , only 72 dpi resolution.
    I am sorry for you that you had to push your bike so far!!!
    I had to do that once and will not do it again.
    You left your bike idleing while you showered and that is not a good idea
    because it is an air cooled engine to a certain extent. I would not let it idle that long.

    You have a good battery so now you can start to diagnose. I would start by checking the rectifier. Do not forget the visual part of any inspection. Look for chafed wires, burned areas etc.,.
     


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    the fan kept it below dangerous temps. higher than i figured it would, but low enough to be safe.
     


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    Stator test is simple. disconnect plug on right side (wiring runs out of left side, under carbs, to plug on right). Ohm check the three pins in pairs to each other. 0.1-1.0 Ohms at 68degF. Check each wire to ground and there should be no continuity.

    Plug the connector back in. Check the battery (terminal to terminal) voltage at 5000rpm and you should see 14v DC. If you are getting 12V then you are only seeing battery voltage and there is no charge happening.

    Last thing to check is the R/R. There is a chart in the book for ohm checking the pins on the unit itself but it's confusing. Disconnect the plug and on the plug/wire harness side, check the red/white wire to ground (look for 12v DC). Check the continuity of the green wire to ground (metal on the frame or battery neg terminal). Lastly, the stator charging yellow wires for continuity to each other 1.0-2.0 ohms @ 68deg F.

    All referenced from the Factory service manual. Pages 15-6 thru 15-8

    If all those check out, it can only really be the R/R. You can purchase the aftermarket R/R with cooling fins for $100-$115 bucks. Last I checked a couple weeks ago, wiremybike.com was out of stock but he might have them in by now. Good guy worth doing business with. If he's still out, I bought one last week from regulatorrectifier.com. They also had a good price, in stock, received within 4days of ordering. Had to remove the mounting studs on the frame in order to install longer bolts.
     


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    can rr or stator put some voltage but not enough? seems the bike is lasting longer than it should when running off of the battery alone.

    if its putting 8 or 9 v for example and putting some voltage the battery would last longer than if its getting 0 v.

    another guy here said his bike only lasted a few minutes on battery alone.
     


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    Mine would last about 30 miles on a charge.

    get it fixed before you get yourself an electrical fire.

    [video=youtube;O4hYXoMga6g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4hYXoMga6g[/video]

    I've read about it here where VFR's went up from an RR electrical fire. This video came from a Daytona forum and the guy figures it was an RR as well. Riding along, it died, he pulled it over, and then the video starts.
     


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    i think i would almost cry. and of coure there is a cop there ready to start handing out citations
     


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    ok I know this is old ...but the cop was standing there with a fire extinguisher....... grow up a bit..if you have a problem with police officers get some professional help.
     


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    maybe cops are different there. but here they make up laws on the spot. Iv actually been told that it is illegal for me to be naked in my own house. i guess he wants me to shower with my boxers on.

    Iv been threatoned by a cop that if i fight a ticket he will give me a bigger ticket.

    it is legal for cops to demand 100 dollars or surrender your liscense if you got stoped and are from out of state.

    iv been accused of being drunk when there were people across the street with open bottles.

    the state police force here are required by the govenor to average 1 ticket every 60 seconds.

    they put up an illegal speed limit sine on one patciular street here in town and have been giving out tickets on a very steep hill where its hard to stay at such a low speed without grinding up your brakes. the state finally came in and replaced the sines with ones of the legal speed limit sine.

    my neighbor tried to kill my dog. but because she was friends with the cop i was given a ticket for it.



    things may be different where you are at, but here that rider would have been given a ticket and his bike possibly inpounded. depending on the officer of course.
     


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