VFR vs Body weight

I have been doing some research, and I can see a direct correlation between
the type of bikes we ride, and our body weight.

Most heavy people, and big peole like the bigger bikes, and do not hang off alot, the VFR seems to be a choice for people who may be on the heavy side.
and likely more mature in years, and hopefuly in other ways too.

Being light, and nimble I like the light, and nimble bikes.

 

Can you provide citations, references or the data used in this "research"?

 

Yes I see a lot of older guys riding around on VFR's ,and harleys.
Who are over weight.

I have many friends who are 50 lbs over weight and they ride Harleys.

There is a direct correlation between the fitness of the rider, and the type of bike they ride, because most people naturally ride what there capable of fitness wise, and the one's that don't get killed.

You cannot ride a bike really well unless you are very fit.
I think the VFR definity fits in to the over weight rider preference.

 

You might have a point in the average age of VFR rider because rarely is a VFR the first choice of a rider in the 18-25 year old range. I had pure sport bikes in my 20's and then tried the Harley and quickly got bored with that and then went to the VFR because it does everything well, twisty's and long distance riding. I'm about to get a second bike just for the local twisty's but couldn't imagine ever riding it on my annual California runs. But I don't think weight has anything with VFR riders. What I've noticed is a lot more VFR riders are under 200 lb than over 200. Right now I'm about 12 lb over my desired weight...





P.S. I hope you know your playing with fire on a thread like this, or is that your intentions?

 

I am turning 30 this month, 5 foot 9, 145 pounds. I wanted a VFR from day one. People that are my age can't afford two bikes, and that's exactly why you would want one that can do everything.

 

I'm 5'8" at 150 lbs, run three miles 5 days a week, lift weights and do ti chi daily. I choose the VFR because I like to travel and it's fun. One day I hope to be over weight and out of shape, until then, I'll just have to suffer with my silver VFR. ride safe

 

I think you need to be very fit, as in the gym 4 to 5 times a week to ride a pure sports bike with control, That is why the VFR is a good bike for the average rider, who cannot commit to that level of fitness.

When I ride my CBR I hold my self in place with my stomach muscles, and lift my weight off the pegs with my legs, I do that for about 30 mins.
Then I hit the twisties when I am finished I am soaked with sweat.

One of the lmiting factors about riding a pure sports bike is the ability to move very fast from side to side enabling the bike to pitch over in less than one second.

I don't think anyone can do this on a VFR, REG pridmore is way over weight, and Spencer uses trail braking as a compensation for poor corner speed entry.

 

My main problem is with your use of the term "direct correlation". If you have done the research and have the numbers to back this claim, I would love to see them. You are claiming that you will NEVER see someone who is fit on a VFR, and you will NEVER see someone who is over weight on a true sport bike. I need find only a single counter example (see previos post) to prove your "research" invalid!

 

I am not saying there are not exceptions to the rule, but in general big people ride the bigger bikes. I have seen a few big guys on pure sports bikes but not many, and I am sure they change quickly as for fit guys then you can ride anything you want.

 

Some fairly daft generalisations you have made, so what is your point exactly except for being a troll?

Good for you, then if you are that way inclined and you think the VFR is an overweight bike for overweight people then don't buy one.

Stop insulting the forum members intelligence with your uninformed research (it's just your opinion anyway, nothing more), ridiculous generalisations and other wise crap posts.

 

YES YOU ARE! When you use the term "direct correlation" you are saying there are no exceptions!

 

No direct correlation does not mean no exceptions.

Were's Nailer45

 

You need to relax, my observations are correct to ride a pur sports bike well you need to be very fit, if you are not you will kill yourselve, that is why pilots are fit until they retire to fly commerical jets, a VFR is like a commercial jet. The pure sports are F15's. this is logical

 

A "correlation" is the "tendency" of the dependent variable to move in one specidic direction given changes in the independent variable. A "direct correlation" is a one-to-one mapping of a independent variable to the dependent variable.
You may have noticed a correlation between weight and bike size, but not a direct one.

 

You must have read that off the web, but correlation is also between two independent variables, that have a tendancy to be un related, there is a correlation bewteen Size, and male, or female, it has nothing to do with dependant variables. You are correct in that I should have said highly correlated. Thanks you for the input. But so few big guys ride pure sports bikes is that direction it is a direct correlation.

 

VFR4464, are you riding presently, and if so what bike is it?
We all could find 'correlations' and 'relationships' about any factor of any subject.

Stop beating about the bush with your subjects, what is the whole point of VFR vs body weight anyway?

Why don't i start an FJR vs bodyweight thread, or any other bike that a rider here may own.

 

May I suggest some reading?
Phillip R. Bevington
Data Reduction and Error Analysis
For the Physical Sciences

McGraw-Hill Book Company; 1969
Specifically chapter 7
I believe the book is out of print, but it is a classic and is likely available for your enjoyment in Physicis Library of your local university.

BTW, two independent variables are by definition un-correlated.

 

If you make something Idiot proof, someone will invent a better Idiot!

dskelton ... this just tickles me every time I see it ... :biggrin:

 

Doesn't the fact that you are covered in sweat mean you are out of shape? That what many of us can do with ease, is apparently for you, some sort of major exhertion? And from the sounds of it, far more exercise than your puny body can handle? If turning a 400 pound sport bike from one corner to the next, has you short of breath, that points to a fairly sedentary lifestyle. :tongue:

Fitness and riding ability do not go hand in hand. There can be some corelation, but it is not a direct relationship at the street riding level.

I don't know the last race I watched on TV, when Rossi took of his helmet his hair was bone dry. He was not "soaked in sweat." Perhaps you are riding above your head, or without the requisite skill for the activity?:tongue:

But again the VFR is not a pure sport bike, hasn't been since what? the late 80's.

If you look at the top riders, they aren't using much pure strength to go for corner to corner; it is a smooth transition. To suggest otherwise, suggests a certain ham fistednees in riding style -- as opposed to skill.

You don't actully have to be that thin to move very quickly -- have you seen how friggin' quick some of those 300lb NFL players can move -- amazingly quick.

I too am well under 200lbs, weighed even less when I bought my first VFR. Never mind my K1200RS, an even larger bike.

Reg Pridmore can still spank 99.9% of the riders out there in the world around a track. Take a ride on the back of his VFR around a track one time, even as a rider, it is scary how fast and smooth he can be, even with a passenger, and not even pushing it. And no, when I have seen him, he isn't even breaking a sweat:smile: What is scary fast to most of us, is so far in his comfort envelope, it isn't funny.
Maybe he rides a VFR because he spends his entire working day on a bike, week after week and the CBR series just is too uncomfortable for him, and the VFR has a better passenger perch for his ride alongs. Plus he doesn't have to compensate for lack of skill turning, with a lighter bike, the VFR does exactly what he needs it to.
The only people that can beat him are current & some previous racers. He showed that in the Legends cup a couple of years ago.

 

You VFR guys are all up tight, you guys just are not getting it I guess.