Garmin Zumo GPS thread.

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    they look the same but there not it took some time( even at 100speed)i did a max mag and rout simulation in base camp it missed some of the best rds.i guess 60cx limit of 50 waypoint per rout sucks.when you adjust rout it adds waypoints i now know why the guy i ride with splits the rout up he has 60c.
     


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    what kinda of rout was that on rd navigation? manual on 60 says 1000waypoints per rout up to 50 routs. but that is not the case when using on rd navigation auto routing it goes down to 50waypoints and 50 routs


    edit i have a headache i need beer!!!
     
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  3. jasonsmith

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    Here is the revised route loaded on my Zumo...

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    Can you send me your actual log track so I can see the difference because even when I zoom into the log that you gave me I'm not seeing what's happening.

    EDIT: Beer... great idea!
     


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    you should have original track from base camp. ill send it to u with map source, starting to confuse all these different files.
    i see from your above post zumo handles more than 50waypoints. i just tryed to load the original rout i did before i knew about base camp, manually traced rout from track, wont load has 56 waypoints LOL to make it work just need to delete 6 unnecessary points manually and it will work, i guess same goes with your fixed up rout as well.
     


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    3000 Track points or viapoints?
     


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    I'm trying to find the file, it may have been Tracks points come to think of it... not sure. How many WP will the Zumo take Bonus in one route? any idea...

    EDIT: The 660 has a Via Point limit of 250. Must have been track points, but 3000 is no big deal since I have heard it can take way more than that.
     


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    Okay chomper after all that work this morning and afternoon, I figured I would convert the track to a route the easy way.

    I uploaded the track to the Zumo...

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    Started the import...

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    Found it in the Custom Route area...

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    And here it is, identical to the track and no waypoints or via points. All shaping points.

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    It even got this part right...

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    :smile:

    EDIT: Here is the elevation profile as shown in BaseCamp for the above route. Cool stuff.

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    On a side note I dove into an actual track log and found this cool button pointing to a graph like thing...

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    It gave me this neat looking elevation graph.

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    .......................[Hastings St...................] [ Hwy 1............................]
     


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    Not sure of the WP/Favorites limit per route but the machine can handle 50 routes and 500 waypoints/favorites. I always plan my routes based on one route = one day. Makes the ETA feature work!!!!! Maybe an alternate for the day if I feel I need to.

    You can always put other favorites on the card and download them when you need them. I have never had a problem for a route with viapoints.......and I always plan twisty tours.

    For a street conversion from the tracks the biggest I have ever done is about 7.5K or 250 miles. The 550 has more of a problem with pure off road tracks but lets not get into that now.

    One of the prime routes in CA BTW.

    The Zumo Tracks in Mapsource.
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    The converted Route
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    FYI the Zumo does a better job of logging than many GPS units as it automatically puts more in corners/changes of direction and less in the straights.
     


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    My 550 can not do that...............but I always send them to mapsource first anyway and clean them up before converting them back to a route.
     


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    I have been planning on a one route per day basis as well, I think it's the only way to go. The 660 will hold 1000 WP/Favs with only 20 routes on the main memory, unless they've upped that in past little bit. Anything more than that goes onto the card like ya said.

    Chompers route was failing on the Zumo cause it went past the 250 Via Point max per route which I found out later in the day. I think it's probably 250 WP per route as well if I was to take a guess. The Zumo sure is impressive though when converting from a track to route, holy moly. It turned about 2hrs of work literally into 3 min.

    Are there any bad roads in Norcal?

    NORMAL USE LIMITATIONS

    OFF ROAD LIMITATIONS

     
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    JS if you get a chance send me that rout, it has to have some kinda of waypoints curious to see if i can load it in 60cx
    after all the learning yesterday you have to admit the more points you leave the more accurate rout is
    rout we did was a great test.
     


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    It has points chomper, they're just shaping points that the Zumo can use. I think the track may have a fit outside the Zumo though, we'll see.

    edit: After pulling it out and putting it in BaseCamp it turned into 566kms. :eek: I think it's best to leave a converted track like this on the Zumo or fortify it like we did yesterday. Check your mail.
     


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    chomper try opening it in MapSource because obviously BaseCamp isn't handling the shaping points very well.
     


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    i was using map source, that was the screen shot i sent you. looking at your latest zumo screen shot again it must be right at 465km that was the right distance from original rout. so its safe to say that 660 you have has better software then basecamp and mapsource . this was a great test rout it may not look complicated but it is, there is no possible way you could duplicate that rout by memorizing it.
     


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    I agree chomper, that was an excellent test route on top of a great day ride route too!

    Randy... Scuba... how's it going guys. Getting some playing time in?
     


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    This is only mentioned briefly in the manual but just wanted to remind you guys about the custom route feature and the route options you have.

    Head to custom routes and select new once inside.

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    Then go through the options and select your destination points.

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    Once you hit next you will get the following route options.

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    Hit save and your route is ready to go. You can just see a slight green path under Seattle where it has determined it to be slightly shorter. Very cool IMO.
     


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    The 550 has those routing options but you do not have the quick routing change for your route. In order to see the route options you have to go back and change the system default.....several steps are required to show what the Zumo 660 displays. Not worth the trouble for the 550.
     


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    Ya it's a pretty cool feature, especially for those not using pc software. I'm not sure why the 660 even asks for routing preferences, must be for the auto-recalculation.
     


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    95% of my routes come from the PC. I leave the Zumo on fastest time except when I go off road. If I am doing ad hoc routing on tour I just punch in a waypoint /favorite that I have preprogrammed and route to the new location. These are not saved as routes for future download unless you go thru the process in your post. So if you want to see what you did pull up your tracks and recreate the route for the next time.
     


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