For the 7th Generation?

I'm not crazy about the sound of this, and it wouldn't surprise me at all to see it on the 7th gen as a so-called "advancement" to the 6th gen VTEC.

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/Article_Page.aspx?ArticleID=3909&Page=1#

 

Let's hope not!! That would be an obnoxious, hideous thing.

 

It's never a good sign for the performance side when you hear them talk about 30% fuel savings, runs cleaner, etc. That technology has been around for years, I remember GM trying something similar back in the 80s on their cars. Just seems so pointless on a motorycle though.

 

In order for Honda to attach more eletro do-dads to a 7th gen VFR, Honda would actually have to make a 7th gen VFR. Don't hold your breath. I made that prediction last month and stand by it. I think the current 6th gen will soldier on for a year or two and then Honda will pull the plug. I really do hope I'm wrong.

KC-10 FE out...
lane:

 

Why on earth

Why on earth are they spending so much time mucking around with fuel saving crap on motorcycles. Nobody is going to buy a misfiring blackbird, or heaven forbid, a VFR

Even if it is functional and theoretically sound.

If theyre testing a new MOTO GP version of the VFR, do you think a 7th Gen or 8th GEN vfr will be based around that motor configuration?

KC10, why do you think hey will pull the plug on the VFR when it has good sales and a large following?

 

Unfortunately, the VFR has poor sales & a small following in the US. I know it's a very popular bike pretty much every where else but not the US. So I guess I'm speaking for the US market. If I remember correctly, the VFR was the best selling 750cc-1000cc bike in the UK this year. Not the case in the US. I don't know of a single one other than mine anywhere within 20 miles of my house. There's still a 2005 & a 2006 in the local dealer. 2006 was supposed to be the first year for gen 7. Didn't happen. 2007? No change other than new colors. I can't see the VFR being much of a profit generator in the US market. I don't know how much different the US model is compared to other countries but I sure Honda doesn't make much if any money on them in the US. The squid bikes are updated every 83 seconds so I don't think it's too much to ask that Honda gets off its lazy butt and gives us a new from the ground up, 450lb, 115hp, single side swing arm, 5.5 gal fuel tank, fully adjustable suspension, VFR for the same price it is now. All the parts are there, use the CBR front end with 2" raised clip-ons. All the research for the forks, brakes, and triple trees has already been paid for. Use the RC-51 rear shock, same story. Put a new design rear wheel (the current 5 spoke design is boring) and call it a day.

Like I said, I sincerely hope I'm wrong but I do believe the US market VFR is toast within 2 years.

KC-10 FE out...
lane:

 

That is in no way a VFR. A Blackbird with V-tec technology. The Blackbird has inline 4, so there is no way it can replace the VFR (V-Four). I don't see it happening.

Sure there is a up-grade wish list for the aging VFR and everyone has their own prefrences. I wish Honda would just put more effort into the engine than changing color scheme every year.

 

I diffently would be first on the list, I think the bike you described is every VFR's owners wet dream...

 

Honda needs to do away with the vtec and bring back gear driven cams and put the vfr on a diet ..Add 5-10 hp, lose 20-40 lbs, suspension to me is fine. get rid of the ugly underseat exhaust and go back to side mount exhaust. No we dont need more fuel mileage on the vfr ..If i wanted fuel savings i would have bought a scooter or moped...I want all 4 cylinders firing all the time.

 

What is up with honda? Are the tree huggers controling thier minds? In reality Honda could get 120-130hp out of the vfr engine . I have watched over the yrs as the VFR slowly gained weight and became less sport and more touring.

The 5th gen was more sport and then we got the 6th gen with vtec and to me its more touring . a cbr600 puts out 115 hp, and is updated every 2 yrs ,where the 6th gen 2002-2007 thats 5yrs without change ...I dont want a vfr that has hyper vtec crap on it , put it on a cbr600 and see what happens...I can read the headlines now " when SQUIDS ATTACK"..

Local honda dealership attacked by sportbike riders who were upset by the new Hypervtec technology Honda installed in its CBR line . The call we made to honda motorcycle corp was useless as we talked to Nakatami Woohoo The comany head janitor and motorcycle designer and his only response was
Fu##ing Americans...

 

If I can get a 30% jump in economy i dont care if it sounds like a cow in heat!

When on the highway with my earplugs in i cant hear this one, so it wouldnt matter what it sounded like to me...

Long as I can override it and turn it off and on myself of course..

I like to go far on mine, and Id rather have the cash for a room! As it is mine is the %%^ 's on fuel far as im concerned..Not good when their civic gets the same mileage!!
Right now I wouldnt buy aniother vfr due to themileage...

Hopefully they wont be selling a model that sounds like its dissintegrating..I expect when the technology gets here it will work a bit better..\

NN

 

If you care about fuel economy

My new bike can do in excess of 350kms per 20L or 17.5 km/Litre
Which is about 42 miles to US gallon, and 50 miles per UK gallon.

My 87 VFR700 would do 250kms per 17L or 14.5km/Litre
Which is about 35 miles per US gallon, or 42 miles per UK gallon

The new 800 has in excess of 100 hp, and 80nm of torque.

The 700 had 76 hp and 42 nm of torque.

Cant compare really.

VFRs are good on fuel

If your too worried about fuel economy, walk.

 

"If your too worried about fuel economy, walk."

My first thought is obviously you are either too wealthy or you dont go anywhere..... and if it aint one of those, then theres only one answer left.....

Me,I'd rather get somewhere far than support the oil companies thank you, and with todays technology, 50 mpg on a 500 lb bike is brutal..My old 81 honda does 50 and its 25 yrs old..about a second slower in the 1/4 and non to high tech....


But you keep burnin it up..my tax's keep going down the more you oil you buy!
Then I can buy another bike!!!


NN

 

But who is riding a VFR for economy? I barely pay attention to the mileage I get on the VFR, it just isn't a concern of mine. Or any of my last several bikes. If that was what I was concerned with, I would be riding a 250!

While I don't want to waste money or gas, I am not sweating over the VFR's mileage. I ride it to make my commute fun, not economical.

Mile for mile, my car is cheaper to operate than my VFR, far cheaper. And while essentially, for my life, I have to have a car, I don't have to have a bike. Although I am much happier with one than without one. For most of us, I would guess the VFR is a toy essentially. That is why you see a lack of utter concern with the overall mileage.

Spike

 

+ for me .... layball: a toy that levels my psy ... calms the mind .. excites the senses ... somehow, I just wouldn't be me without it. Isn't ecomony an apartment off base? LOL

 

My VFR is my commuter and I think 45 MPG (US) is pretty good. And I bet the 81 Honda that gets 50 MPG probably also puts twice as much poison in the air as the current VFR. Emissions is what has killed the gas mileage of the modern motorcycle. Also, that 45 MPG beats the hell out of the 16 MPG (city) my RX-8 gets....

 

I don't mean that a Blackbird will replace a VFR, I'm speaking only of the technology since it is a version of VTEC.

 

Ahh, but I get 50MPG with my Prius!
Plus for most of us, service calls are more expensive on the bike than the car. And tires, I spend a lot more on tires; mile for mile than I do on the car. Now that could be different for some, but it would be pretty rare.

Spike

 

:dance: I just cant get past the riding gear on the test rider are those sidi docksiders he has on