Words vs. Actions: Presidential Hypocrasy

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  1. reg71

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    you know, we can do that but you guys would just type it a different way, AND the creative names that people come up with for current political figures have a tendency to become racist if not closely monitored.
     
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    Seems to me that's four things we can all agree on, assuming my math is correct.
     
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    We don’t have capitalism; that is the problem. Markets are not free and open, we have monopolies in several sectors, regulations stifle completion and we are left with winner take all capitalism.
     
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    They are now calling themselves "Xe" (pronounced zee) as is Vfourbear's foil hats are zee ultimate defense against our mind probes.

    Honestly dont know, they wont stop eating long enough to do anything. They did ask if I had your phone number though, maybe they think there's food at your house.

    Hadnt thought about that .......creative little minds here.

    Btw, the total hijacking of this thread is nearly complete, more cheesecake photos should just about do it.
     
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    CHEESECAKE!!!
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    Now I need get that image out of my head...
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    Who is John Galt??
     
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    Outstanding Tink.......

    Who the hell keeps asking me who John Galt is? Is that you Ayn?
     
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    I think he was just some clown ass inventor. Nothing to worry about :thumbsup:
     
  8. monk69

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    I'm more concerned with direction our Country/people/government/etc. is going. right now there are 3 Navy Seals on trial for doing their job(as far as I'm concerned they're on the front line, how they choose the act is their choice. If someone doesn't like it take their place). Most of Europe is being taken over by Jihad's and the regular Moslems who just follow the flow(which is where I'm seeing this Country going, if it's not changed)... The only countries that seem to be trying to control this problem is Italy, and Israel.And of course Australia. They are going to use our P-Correctness against us, that's what's going though Europe now.

    As for as our government they'd like nothing better than to conrol us, with the exception of some that really care about our freedoms Re;McCain.... I could care less about the party's.... It's what each elected poser is going to do, not say.

    ARABS AND AZTECS
    Behind The Lines
    Dr. Jack Wheeler
    Friday, April 30, 2004

    Cortez and his Spanish soldiers who conquered the Aztecs are known to
    history as Conquistadors. That label of Conquerors was applied to
    them by their contemporaries -- but it originated a generation
    earlier. It was first used to describe the Spaniards who liberated
    their own country from Islam.

    Arab invaders had swept across Spain in the early 700s, and it took
    centuries for the Spanish to kick them out. Cortez was not yet 10
    years old when they were finally ejected from their last stronghold
    in Grenada in 1492. When Cortez first looked upon the pyramid temples
    of the Aztec gods, he called them mezquitas -- mosques.

    Cortez saw himself as a liberator -- just as his fathers had
    liberated Spain from the Islamic yoke, so he would liberate New Spain
    from the Aztec yoke. Yet he had little idea of how deep were the
    political-religious parallels between the Arabs and the Aztecs.

    The parallels go beyond the death worship of Aztec warriors and Arab
    suicide-bombers. One of the latter responsible for the train bombings
    in Madrid declared in a letter: You (Christians) love life -- we
    (Moslems) love death. Compare this Aztec poem:

    There is nothing like death in war Nothing like the flowery death So
    precious to the gods who give us life Far off I see it! My heart
    yearns for it!

    The deeper parallel is this: both the Arabs and the Aztecs invented a
    Religion of Jihad as a rationale to justify their imperialist empires.

    For the Aztecs, war was their purpose for existence, the sacred
    manifestation of their religion. War for the Aztecs was always Holy
    War.

    The Aztecs were a tribe of primitive nomads when they first entered
    the Valley of Mexico in the early 14th century. They were shunned as
    barbarians by the inhabitants, descendants of the disintegrated
    Toltec Empire, and were forced to live on swampy islands in the
    valleys huge lake.

    The one thing the Aztecs knew was how to fight. So they hired
    themselves out as mercenaries to the warring Toltec-remnant
    principalities. Before long, they had an army big enough to take over
    the principalities -- which they proceeded to do.

    No empire can be held together with simple brute force, however. It
    requires a rationale, and the Aztecs soon invented one: a religion
    with gods who need them, the Aztecs, to wage continual war to keep
    the universe together.

    The Aztec god of the hunt was Huitzilopotchtli (The Hummingbird on
    the Left). Once the Aztecs began conquering other kingdoms in the
    1430s, he was transformed into a universal power controlling the
    earth, the heavens, and the rising of the sun. For reasons the Aztec
    Witch-Doctors could never explain, Huitzilopotchtli, although a god,
    required food to sustain his labors in keeping the cosmos in one
    piece.

    The food the Aztec god must have so the sun would rise tomorrow was a
    daily -- daily -- supply of dozens -- dozens -- of live, beating
    human hearts, physically ripped out of a living human being chest and
    placed in the chacmool, the sacred receptacle, fresh, hot, and still
    palpitating.

    In 1487, to celebrate the completion of the Great Temple of
    Huitzilopotchtli in the Aztec capital of Tenochtitlan, 20,000
    prisoners were sacrificed in fourteen days, with long lines of
    victims stretching from the temple in four directions as far as the
    eye could see.

    It was decreed that other gods were perpetually hungry. Tlaloc, the
    rain god, needed the hearts of children and babies so that it would
    rain. Xipe, the plant god, needed human skins acquired by skinning a
    victim alive, so that plants would grow.

    Naturally, the tens of thousands of victims needed annually for these
    cosmic sacrifices could not come from the Aztec people, or else they
    would quickly kill themselves off. The only way to get them was to
    capture them as prisoners of war.

    Thus war -- Holy War -- became the purpose of the Aztec State. All
    soldiers in the Aztec Army were Holy Warriors, Warriors of the Gods.
    Peace was dangerous. No war meant no prisoners to sacrifice, no food
    for the gods, which risked the destruction of mankind and the
    universe itself. The only way to avoid cosmic disaster was for the
    Aztecs to accept the burden fate had given them and wage perpetual
    war for the salvation of humanity.

    All in all, a pretty clever rationalization for a monstrous
    imperialist tyranny, wouldn't you say? Sounds like they were taking
    religion-inventing lessons from the Arabs.

    For just as the worship of Huitzilopotchtli was an invention to
    provide a religious justification for Aztec imperialism, so Islam was
    an invention for the purpose of providing a religious justification
    for Arab imperialism.

    It is commonly taught that the purpose of the Arab Conquest -- Arab
    hordes exploding out of Arabia in the middle of the 7th century to
    conquer all of the Christian Middle East, Zoroastrian Persia and
    Central Asia, Hindu Northern India, and Christian North Africa and
    Spain in 100 years -- was to spread Islam. It turns out this is the
    opposite of what actually happened.

    That is, just like other nomad hordes that swarmed out of a desert
    and infested civilizations through history -- like Attila Huns or
    Genghiz Khan Mongols -- so did the Arabs. Finding themselves in
    sudden possession of a vast empire of vastly different peoples and
    all of them non-Arab, the Arabs invented a religion to justify their
    ruling it, and aptly named it Islam, which in Arabic means
    Submission. They claimed it meant submission to the Will of God, but
    what it really meant was submission to them.

    This is detailed in The Myth of Mecca, written shortly after the
    September 11 Moslem attack on America. It is posted in the Classics
    section of To The Point News, and I could not encourage you more
    strongly to read it. [ed., article is open to non-subscribers]

    At long last, serious scholars have begun researching the history of
    Islam origins. Their conclusion, in the words of one, I.M. Al-
    Rawandi, is that the life of Mohammed chronicled in the Sira (the
    official Islamic hagiography) is a baseless fiction. It was made up.
    He never lived in Mecca, and if he lived at all, he was a bandit
    chieftain named Ubuâl Kassim (Mohammedis not a name, it a title
    meaning The Praised One) who lived in what is now southern Jordan.

    An additional conclusion is that the Koran is made up as well --
    stories and quotations from scores of varying sources and authors
    stitched together over a century or two after the Conquest.

    This is why the Call to Jihad is hard-wired into the Koran. Jihad is
    why Islam exists. The Moslem religion was invented by Arabs in order
    to claim their conquering of other peoples and religions was ordained
    and approved by God.

    After the tide of Arab imperialism was turned back in 15th century
    Spain, the Ottoman Turks took up the call of Jihad, plundering
    southeastern Europe for slaves and booty. The Islamic threat to
    Europe was stopped at Vienna, where the German-Austrian-Polish forces
    led by Polish King Jan Sobieski defeated the Ottoman invaders on
    September 12, 1683. Now the threat of Jihad has arisen once again
    from the deserts of Arabia.

    The threat is much closer than in Iraq. Earlier this week (April 26),
    the New York Times featured an article entitled Militants in Europe
    Openly Call for Jihad and the Rule of Islam. It focused on a group of
    Moslem radicals in England called Al-Muhajiroun (The Immigrants) and
    one of its leaders, a young man calling himself Sayful Islam (Sword
    of Islam).

    The Times story was based on interviews reporter David Cohen of the
    London Evening Standard had with Sayful and his followers. Mr. Cohen
    article, Terror on the Dole, is in this issue of the TTP Weekly
    Report under Guest Authors. Here is an excerpt:

    It was the events of 11 September that crystallized Sayful's
    worldview. "When I watched those planes go into the Twin Towers, I
    felt elated," he says. "That magnificent action split the world into
    two camps: you were either with Islam and al Qaeda, or with the
    enemy. I decided to quit my job and commit myself full-time to al-
    Muhajiroun."

    Now he does not consider himself British. "I am a Muslim living in
    Britain, and I give my allegiance only to Allah." According to
    Sayful, the aim of al-Muhajiroun (The Immigrants) is nothing less
    than Khilafah - "the worldwide domination of Islam". The way to
    achieve this, he says, is by Jihad, led by Bin Laden. "I support him
    100 per cent." Does that support extend to violent acts of terrorism
    in the UK?

    "Yes," he replies, unequivocally. "When a bomb attack happens here, I
    won't be against it, even if it kills my own children. Islam is
    clear: Muslims living in lands that are occupied have the right to
    attack their invaders."

    I suggest you re-read that quote and let it sink in. And lest you
    think this is just an _expression of radical Islam to which all
    moderate Moslems are opposed, here are the words of Sayful followers:

    The mosques say one thing to the public, and something else to us.
    Let's just say that the face you see and the face we see are two
    different faces, says Abdul Haq. Believe me, adds Abu Musa, "behind
    closed doors, there are no moderate Muslims. Centuries ago, Western
    Civilization had the ability to produce heroes like Cortez and
    Sobieski who had no qualms over fighting murderously evil empires.
    Today, even the most courageous leader on earth, George W. Bush,
    proclaims Islam to be a religion of peace-- when the terrifying
    reality is that it is a religion of war.

    Without perpetual war against the infidels, without Jihad, Islam has
    no driving purpose. It is therefore incumbent on all those who wish
    not to someday submit to an Islamic yoke to demand of Moslems that
    they publicly renounce the Koran Call to Jihad. Civilization only
    path to peace is for Arabs and their Islamic converts to stop
    behaving like Aztecs

    Note: Jack Wheeler has a web site "To The Point"
    To The Point News - To The Point News
     
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    awe come on man! I thought we established this...

    Serious political crap MUST be balanced out with boobs and fast machines.

    Since that was a LOT of serious political depressing crap, I submit lots of hot chicks AND machines:

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    Sorry blondes are not properly represented in this photo :pout:
     
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    Gotta hand it to those Aztecs for those chicas, chicle and chocolate. We must also thank Mr. James Durante for his theme song representing the other Latin culture. "Inca Dinka-Doo."
     
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    Yup, it's Rand.
     
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    Monk, I really tried to read all that stuff in your post but my thoughts kept going here:
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    Dude, you've gone off the deep end. Was this Hannity's selection for book of the month?

    What does this have to do with cabinet appointments? Any opportunity to stoke the fires of fear and influence the ignorant, huh?
     
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    Please tell me it wasn't someone from SoCal who quoted Monk's entire post? Ah $h!t, it was, Damnit.
    Nice write up Monk. My second favorite thing to Motorcycles and Hot Chicas is History about Motorcycles and Hot Chicas.
    Hey wait... All that Aztec history and not one word about the hot Aztec princesses or Myan sex slaves???
    wtf, was this thread about? Oh yeah, politics. I plead the 5th. Carry-on.
     
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    This one's back on topic with Monk's post. At least I think it is, I didn't make it thru the whole thing...

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    I'm with Monk up until the time he posts shit like that and I don't care if he doesn't like the luvly latina ladies or the fancy frauleins. IMO, this thread should include more pix of "you know what" and less about "you don't know what."
     
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    My point of relevance to this is that I think we need to be careful who we elect, by knowing what they've done for us.... Just vote knowledgeably.

    I thought about if to post that piece from the past... I thought if someone was interested they'd read it.... If not don't read it.

    But, it did get some opinions, even if they don't agree. It's just good that someone is interested enough to want to argue the point.

    The thing that's pissing me off are these Navy Seals having to face a court marshal, for their actions in a combat zone.
     
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    Just because they're in combat doesn't mean they shouldn't be accountable for their actions should they stray from "proper" code of conduct. They're pros; therefore, they should act accordingly. I don't know if they are guilty or innocent, but if a claim has been made against them, it should be vetted. I understand that these people are under much stress and in an environment I can't even comprehend, but if they break rules, they need to be responsible for their actions. Being engaged in combat does not give a soldier carte blanche to do as he pleases.
     
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    Even though we have different opinions..... I'd rather see that than the "who gives a S---".....
     
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