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Discussion in 'Anything Goes' started by buttonhook, Oct 23, 2009.

  1. jcoplen

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    i do agree that what you did was the right thing to do. i just wish people understood the level of responseability that these dogs require. and that there not for everyone.
     


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    She is not fond of dogs. But at the mother in laws, who fuggen knows what I have eaten. But if I lived there...then I would be fat (er).

    A foot note to my earlier post about scaring kids for life. I had a Golden Retriever before the wife and I started living together (I know...in sin...) Friendliest dog you ever saw. My daughter was born sometime later and all was fine. SHe played with the dog and all. Then the dog accidently bumped her and she put her hand on a hot BBQ. She has been afraid of dogs ever since. And she is 22 years old now. So don't try to comfort someone afraid of dogs by saying your dog is friendly. It won't work.

    And your cute little dog running through my gardens and shitting on my lawn is not OK. Leash the thing up. It is your dog, not the neighbourhood dog
     


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    Yup....one of those inter-racial relationships that will never work. Mine has been failing for over 25 years now. But I was a slow learner and under-achiever in school too.

    I love Chinese dumplings. Too bad the British dumplings...you know...those things floating in the stew that are like a big lump of dough...aren't as tasty.

    But back on topic. Button, I am sorry you were put in this position that you had to destroy these dogs. I am sure it was something you would have rather not had to do. But I would have done the same thing.
     


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  4. jcoplen

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    my three year old pure bred apbt cheif bloodline out of salt lake city ut[​IMG]
     


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    +1 amigo. You did what you had to do and, in fact, I commend you for it. The dogs should not have been running loose in the first place.
     


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    not to offend...but he has that lights are on but no one is home/cocker spaniel look in his eyes.... basically big dumb lap dog look which IMO is the best.
     


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    no offence taken like i said she doesnt have a mean bone in her body
     


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    I totally agree with the amount of investment in a dog. I have always had dogs as a part of my family. It is sad they had to be put down.

    I have always been a 100% proponent of protecting my family with the level of force necessary to control the situation.

    What was done had to be done based on the facts presented.

    The owner of the dogs is at fault according to dang near every law and ordinance on the subject. Good luck in navigating the fall out. These things can get quite nasty.
     


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    +1. Sorry you were put in that position in the 1st place, but thank God it wasn't your kids instead. And regardless of breeding, good dogs 'snapping', etc. dogs should have be chained up or fenced in unless the owner is right there with them.

    Our older son, now 12, was knocked over as a toddler by my in-laws' small dog (kind of a terrier mutt). Not maliciously at all - they were just playing and the dog hopped against him unexpectedly and down Alex went, and not that hard really. It took years for him to get comfortable around dogs again but I'm glad he did, as we have a terrific big Golden Retriever now!
     


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    I agree and I do blame the owners as well it was not only a problem with the dogs

    On a side note.....I was worried about the owners of the dogs trying to steal stuff around the house before all of this(they already have a rep in the area)...I hope I solved that problem before in ever happened as well.

    dog... it's the other grey meat
     


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    Most dogs just like this can be just docile and caring but that doesnt change the fact that they are and can be dangerous esp to kids. Hell when i was a kid our nextdoor neighbors had a dobberman from a puppy on until it was about 1 yr old, shortly after it turned 1 yr old it attacked one of there lil girls who was both familiar with the dog and, had gotten along with it quite well, hell i had even played with that dog. But sure enough the dog just snapped one day, and chewed off half her face and ear. Wild and or potentialy dangerous animals like that are fine but they need to be, under competent adult supervision in order to be safe. You did right 100% man those dogs could have reeked alot more havoc. It's not as if you shot a border collie or, terrier you shot a 100 or so lbs animal that was destroying stuff.
     


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    and I didn't kill just to kill. I didn't want to get out of the shower in 30 degree weather bare footed and go shoot and animal. I wished it didn't have to happen but it did....

    I love dogs we have our own and it tried to warn my wife about the danger she just didn't listen. The dog would not go into the barn that morning with her when he normally would he just paced out side it. Those pig where just as gentle and any dog I've ever had. they were an easy kill I'm sure.
     


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    I would agree with that. The problem is that some breeds have a differant set of instincts from other breeds, which should still be closely monitored by the owner.

    In fact many counties in COLO. have banned Pit Bull ownership altogather, sighting many cases of mauling and death. Not sure if those bans where aimed at the breed or the lack of responseable ownership.
     


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    Wow glad you and the faimly are OK!!
    I don't have much experience with pit bulls, but encountered one at the vet with one of my Greyhounds. This one was very well behaved, but my dog still kind of hid behind me, when usually he's very social with other dogs, people, cats, deer, etc. I mentioned it to the vet, who said "he's pretty smart to be careful around him". I was amazed at how big his head/jaws were.
    Even my dogs, which are basically submissive 85lb cats, can be dangerous when they're outside, more from impact velocity when they hit you at 40MPH than from biting. They act different when outside, and I don't let them outside alone with the kids.
     


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    The owners don't seem like the best people, so maybe their "parenting" wasn't the greatest.

    Also, as has been said before, dogs should not be off leash unless they are in their own enclosed yard.

    Pitties are not bad dogs. They are the silliest, goofiest, most loyal dog breed around. Yes they were bred as fighting dogs (dogs, bulls, etc.), but they were also bred to be loyal and submissive to humans, that's probably partly why they want after your hogs; however, it is unlikely that they would have gone after your kids. Regardless, you did what you thought you had to do. I don't know if I would've done the same, but I wasn't there.

    Like Randy said and confirmed by my GF (dog trainer), Labs can snap, too. Actually, my gf says that she runs into more problematic (dog aggressive) labs than any other breed, and she volunteers at a pitbull resue.

    Unfortunately, bad owners and hype have given this breed a bad name, but they aren't inherently bad. This breed is the dog of choice for many a thug and wanna be gangster; you'll never see a gangster with a beagle or a pug. This has exacerbated the bad rep. I have 3 pits (2 adopted and 1 foster) and they are terrific.
     


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    Wow! crazy, glad it worked out, hell yes I'd done the same thing, owners of dogs need to be more responsible. Not to pick on folks that have these types of dogs, but I am curious whats the love for a dog that has a bad reputation? Just asking as to me it be easier not to have that kind of dog around, I get what they where breed for back in the days but?? Maybe i'm a hard ass as IMO they should all be in the military and sent to the middle east. Not being mean here, just kinda wild how there's so much of this going on with this breed, there was one attack here just last week and read about it all summer long. I get it's not the dogs fault, it's a people thing, But why ask for trouble. Glad it worked out, hope there's not to much ugly fall out, but where's the bike in all this??
     


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    Good info to have (12 ga. slug). And I feel bad for your kids.
     


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    Jay your question has already been answered - people who don't prejudge pit bulls love them for reasons already stated. They are EXTREMELY loyal to their owners and their actions are 100% representative of what the owners show and teach them.



    one of the pups (pit mix) from our litter with his new family
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    Sam, pure bred and the most loving dog. We rescued him from a very bad house, no rehab needed. This dog was abused every day until we got him and will still not hurt a fly.
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    Because it's a great breed. Other than dog fighters, this breed isn't bred for that anymore. Spend some time with one and you'll see how much fun and how loving they are, much more than other "popular" breeds. There are bad dogs in all breeds. Bad dogs should be killed. But bad owners outnumber bad dogs by many orders of magnitude. In my neighborhood, many retards let their dogs roam without leashes, and many don't pick up their poo when they walk them on leashes. It's the bad owners giving dog owners and pit owners a bad name. How many people do you think curse at dog owners for stepping on poo or seeing it in the sidewalk? Many. But if you are responsible and pick up after your dog, should you be lumped with the irresponsible owners? I think not. And this is the case with the pitties. Also, many times the media reports on a dog attack and say it's a pit, when it was actually another breed, such as a lab.

    There's a lot of ingorance.
     


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    OP: I'm sorry your pigs were killed but this is absolutely a result of their upbringing.

    Yes pit bulls have the physical ability to cause more damage with one bite, but other "family breeds" bite more. Lab, German Shepherds, and especially Dalmatians... they all have temperament problems but you don't hear about it in the media like "bully breeds". Personally I have seen more vicious behavior in miniature breeds (Chihuahuas, Teacup Poodles, etc) and would be much more weary of my son being around them. Their teeth are small and sharp like little needles! One bite may not cause too much damage but it still hurts.

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