LED trun and running lights on an First Gen

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  1. twowheelracer

    twowheelracer New Member

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    So I going to (MAYBE) install L E D 's on my 1983 VF750F. Has anyone done this? and if so was there any issues? that needed to be addressed? any comments would be helpful.:thumbsup:
     


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    If they work... Take care not to invest too much until you check.

    And then after that you'll find that your turn signals draw so little juice that they blink reallyreally fast; it's up to you whether that bugs you too much, I have no idea what the law says about it.
    I just use them for brake (tail) lights, and take comfort in the slight increase in brightness (so I think; your millage may vary) and great drop in draw on the bikes weakest system (stator & such).

    Carry on.
     


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    was thinking about changing mine to LED......what has to be done? If you know.
     


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    I tried the LEDs in my VFR's brakes. Even with 9 LEDs facing out and another 6 facing around the circumference of the plug-in arrays, they were simply not bright enough and had very little spread into the lens reflector. I just don't think they will be as effective for you as standard bulbs...
     


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    My tail/brake lights are (I think) brighter than they were before, but I've got the '98 (fifth gen?). I'm opting out of the turn signals because as I've said they don't draw enough power and make the blinkey too rapid.

    We may be talking to cross purposes though: this LED that I bought is really 12 or so LED's mounted in a plastic mushroom to work with the weird sort of three contact socket that I have (I can't find bulbs for it at Kragen).

    I get them from a local (SF) dealer.
     


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    to "fix" the rapid flashing you need a resistor setup to make the flasher unit think the lamps are still good...


    I found some on ebay for around 15 bucks a set ( two signals) so it would take two sets to do the whole bike . :thumbsup:
     


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    hay twowheelracer i did this to my 83 vf750f i like the look they do still flash alittle faster but you do need two resistor`s one on each side my have 16 bulbs in each light it`s good & bright. If you wont i can take some pic`s for you just let me know.
    Dave
     


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    Thanks to all I'm going to install them to day after I change brake and clutch lines. Clublights and Tan.d.5 the resistors that you talk about do you have to "cut " the existing wires to install? Also I already have a tail/brake light. It rotates and then flashs when the brakes are applyed I like this it seems to help with entertaning the drivers behind me They know I'm there.
     


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    twowheelracer what i did was cut the signal light wires. I cut one wire first then joined together & put a spade connector on it which fit on the resistor did the same with the other wire then puged in to my wiring from the bike. The resistor i got was 12ohm`s - 25 watt`s i`ll take a pic & post it for you.
     


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    Tan.d.5 that would be great I do better with pictures Thanks!!
     


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    i swapped out all the bulbs with LED's on my 6th.
    got everything at www.hidlightusa.com
    what the 6th gen needs is 2 sets of 7443 (with the dual light)
    1 set for the front and 1 set for the brake

    and 1 set of the 7440's (for the rear turn signals)

    since i've got a white '06, it has the clear turn signal lenses so 1 set of the 7443's has to be amber for the front and 1 set of white for the brakes. the 7440's for the rear turn signals also have to be amber.

    also, to combat the hyper blinking, i got an electronic relay to replace the factory mechanical relay. sucks you have to remove the front headlight fairing to get to it.
    got the relay at www.superbrightleds.com
    don't care for the LED's there though

    as for the LED's themselves, you need to get a multi-LED for them to fill up the lens with light.
    i went with the 36 LED bulbs. very bright. more so than the factory bulbs.

    very pleased and i no longer notice the headlight dimming with the turn signals.

    in all, about $65
    but compared to the cost of a replacement R/R or Stator, i think a worthwhile investment.

    i'll get pics up later
     


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    Bike 001.jpg

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    Here are the pics, of how I wired my resistors.
     


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    I changed all the bulbs on my 1st Gen to LED's and the Headlight to an HID.

    The front signals I used 1157 SUPER WHITE 60 LED Towers from CDNAUTOWORKS.
    CAW Product Selection

    ....and the same but 1156's for the rear signals. They blink faster but I like it like that.....it really gets the attention of everyone on the road.

    I got Similar LED's for the brakes but red....not Super white.
    ...and I added a light Modulator to the rear LED Brake lights. Causes them to flash 10 times per second for 2 seconds. Again.....to get the attention of people behind me so they know I'm braking.
    CAW Product Selection
     


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    tan.d.5 I picked up some load equalizers that are supposed to correct the super fsat blinking. Could not find the resistors you mentioned. One ? do the resistors get hot ? these EQ's. get as hot as a regular light bulb.
    Terry
     


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    the equalizers's ARE resistors

    thats all they really are.

    large high wattage metal cased with cooling fin resistors

    do the ones you bought have the wattage and Ohm number listed on them ? I'm sure I can get them from an electronics distributor for cheaper then " special bike ones"
     


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    why bother with all the load resisters when all you need to do is swap out the flasher relay with an electronic one and that alone will solve the hyper blinking.
    with the resisters, they need to be installed in-line with each LED.
    that's 4 resisters just for the turn signals alone at a cost of around $10 per. not to mention you have to splice into the factory wiring.

    as opposed to 1 electronic relay for around $15 shipped. no splicing, no heat, no mods whatsoever. just plug it in place of the old one.
     

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    LED Lights

    WOW!! twowheelracer a lot of feedback on this one, looks like you found your
    answer. But I guess I'll put my 2 cents in. I replaced all of my lights on my
    5th gen including instrument lights with leds, I also shoe horned a digital gear
    indicator in the green neutral spot. Anyway I was going to say aviod load
    resisters and get an electronic relay, it works for LEDS and standard bulbs.
    superbrightleds.com sells them for around $8
     


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    Yes 25 watts 6.2 ohms But I see there are other ways to fix this problem I'm going to check out before I start cutting into the wiring.
    Thanks for your help.
     


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    only " problem" might be I suspect that your blinker unit much like mine ( 86 VFR750F) does not seem to have a modern replacement...

    tho I could be wrong if so .. please tell me !!!! LOL :tongue:
     


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    Looks like you may be right but I'm going to check a bit more. If I find anything I'll let you know. Also the load EQs. are ceramic no fins:confused: I see your in Denver Cool not to far from Pueblo
    Thanks
     


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