2000 800FI Won't Start- 1st time ever!

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  1. amcdonell

    amcdonell New Member

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    The last time I started it I only moved it about 20 feet and then shut it off.
    It didn't sound right then and now it will not fire up. Injectors work when I switch on and lights and gauges are all good. The starter turns over but....nothing, no fire. Is it possible that I fouled a plug or flooded it? What to do? :confused: I've never had any problem with this bike. I still have the original battery. Any advice?

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    I'm confused. When you press the starter, does it turn over? Have you checked fuses? If it's flooded, usually when it dries out a bit it will try to start, same for fouled plugs, it would try to start, and I would think it would just run badly. Plus, I have never fouled a plug on a four stroke. I know it happens, I just don't think it happens a lot. We need to get Vinnie to help you on this. He's good at going down the checklist to diagnose probs in elec, and I'm thinkin that's what you may have.
     


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    I fouled my plugs the exact same way on my 99. So I would check that first. I started it up and rode from the rear of our shop to the front, about 50 ft. and fouled them.
     
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    wow, I have never fouled a set on any of my streetbikes. I rarely have ever had to change them even. I probably will on this bike, though since I put more miles on it than my other ones.
     


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    reg, ty, but no pedestals please cause I'll get a swelled head and then have to go buy a new helmet. lol. Simple things first. Did you accidentally hit the run/stop switch. It happens, I have done it, I have even shut it off at the switch and forgot I did and wondered why it would not start. Next wuold be fuses. are all the fuses good. If the switch is in the run position and all teh fuses are good, take your favorite digital multimeter, set it to -20v and check that the battery has a 12 volt charge. I do not think it would be plugs as I usuallyhave an indication it is fouling, such as the engine sounding like it is loading up on fuel, however, it won't hurt to pull them and see how they look. Please keep us updated withyour findings and we will continue to try to help remotely troubleshoot this issue.
     


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    Thats the only set I've ever fouled too. It may have been because the engine was cold, I cranked her up and rode @ 50 feet quickly, and shut it off. :confused:
     


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    I don't think the fuel pump primes with the kill switch off.
     


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    it should prime when you turn the key on, just like it does on a car. But if the switch were accidentally hit and not realized then it wont start. But I am just trying to eliminagte simple things first before jumping into more technical matters.
     


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    It doesn't prime if the kill switch is off. I checked this morning.
     


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    you're supposed to add 'so :tongue: Vman!'
     


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    SO,:tongue: VMAN.:smile:
     


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    Jev, when you turn your key on the pump doesnt prime? hmmm. ok. on to the next simple stuff then. :tongue:
     


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    Yes, providing the kill switch is in the run pos. If the kill switch is in the off pos., the pump doesn't prime. It was the same on my 99 and the 2000 model thats on our showroom floor at work. I guess we've about beat this to death huh?:smile:
     


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    :deadhorse: At least the priming of the fuel pump part. lol
     


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    Having trouble too...

    Really strange... my 2000 VFR800 started doing the same thing last week.
    Turn the key on, kill switch on, hear the pump prime, start button...The starter cranks, but the sound is different, like some that is supposed to be running is'nt.
    Also, I cant smell any gas at the exhaust, which makes me think that the fuel line is clogged or kinked, or there is something up with the fuel pump...

    Any other suggestions?
     


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    Could it be possible that the starter isn't fully engaging? I have had cars do that but never my bike.

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    I suggest you disconnect your battery for a few minutes. I haven't had my VFR do this but my '94 Acura Integra did it about once a year. Everything whirs, turns, lights, cranks, but doesn't sound normal and the engine won't fire. (Honda engineers did both vehicles FI systems and sensors)
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    I did think about the starter fully engaging, I had a car that used to do that...
    So I tried to hop start the bike, which works almost every time, really easy to do on a VFR, but no luck.

    The battery thing sounds like a good thing to try tomorrow...we will see how it turns out.

    Thanks for the info.
     


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    Solved the problem...kind of.

    So, after much head scratching and fiddling around with different things, I broke down and called the dealer to come and trailer it to the shop.
    I just got the bad news this afternoon...
    They did a compression check / leak down, one cylinder is down 50% from spec and the other three are worse. on top of that four valves seem to have extreme carbon build up or are burned / scored.
    In short the motor will need to be torn down, new rings, minimum of four new valves, and whatever else they find wrong... $1500.00 later...probably more.
    I purchased the bike with 14000 on the ODO and the mechanic said that this damage could have been done before I owned it and it was just a matter of time before it died, but it is indeed dead, for the time being anyway.

    Just an update...:frown:
     


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    that sucks bro. maybe since it's down anyway, you should look into that kit to increase the displacement and gain a few HP. Might end up costing you about the same anyway and you get a little displacement to boot.


     


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