The worst that could happen!!! VF500

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  1. loopsandlogic

    loopsandlogic New Member

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    So I start my bike up for the first time this year after it was stored with no gas in the carbs, oil changed, chrome treated, tires off the ground, etc.

    And she starts after getting the pump to prime the bowls, and what does she do!!!!!! but piss fuel out of every carb!!!!:mad:

    I have never had this happen in my life. I did clean the carbs in the beginning of spring of last year, and they didn't even become wet around the bowls after 400 miles of riding.

    What could of happened??

    Honda wants $39.68 per carb for a float bowl gasket and 5 o-rings.

    Thats $160 for all 4....I don't have that kind of dough laying around.....

    Is there any other gasket kit available?? My shop says K&L only make gaskets for the VF750.:frown:

    And no other company makes gaskets....

    Help please

    Edit: And she still runs great....actually....she runs really Good for some reason....
     


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    Go to your local NAPA or advance Autoparts. Get the gasket making material, and cut your own. I did that for my Gravely Tractor's Carb, with no problems.

    As far as the o-rings go, take them to a local hydraulic repair shop and see if they can match them for you.

    Good Luck!
     


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    Mine did the same

    Hey

    I have worked on my engine and bike for 2 years so before I started the bike I took the carbs and cleaned them.When the bike started it came a little fuel out of them for a while but then stopped.Like my mechanic said this can happen when they have been dry for a long time.I have now ride my bike for 2 weeks without trouble.

    Best regards

    Gunnar
     


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    This happened to me. I laid the bike up over winter with the tank off and the carbs drained. When I restarted the bike three weeks ago gas leaked heavily from all carbs. I cleaned up the gas and started her up again, running the engine for two or three minutes (with fire extinguisher at hand.) Still, gas leaking but maybe not quite as much this time. I ran the bike two or three more times, each time noticing less leakage. Finally all leaking stopped. My guess is that the needles were stuck causing gas to overflow from the top of the carbs. Done outdoors with a rag under the carbs you should be fine but obviously, gas falling on hot headers is not a great idea. With luck, the needles or floats are just varnished and stuck.
     


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    I've had this problem with my CB750 after sitting for months without being run. After a few days it went away. I believe the problem is that the gaskets dry up and don't seal well. After they get wet with fuel the gasket expands and seals up. Hopefully it'll be that easy for you. Good luck.
     


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    v4hor's right. I hadn't though about the gaskets drying out. Bet that's it.
     


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    which begs the question...is it better to drain them and deal with the gaskets, or not drain them and deal with the residue?

    Personally, I drain them, but I have never had the dry gasket problem either. Is there a fuel additive that could help prevent this?
     


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    I have no idea what to do......But I will be heading to NAPA tomorrow afternoon.

    Is it just like the oring material??

    On the plus side everyone, I found some gas resistant orings!!!!!

    But really the fuel is heavily leaking from all carbs. Not overflowing!!!

    But coming around the lower cracks on the bowls. If it was overflowing, I would have hard starts from fuel trickling down into the intakes. That was my first problem when I bought the bike : )

    Its really bad!!! Like streams, not drips, but streams!!!!

    Thank you all for the help.....You don't know how much I appreciate it.

    -Mike
     


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    I'll report back about the auto parts stores. I just hope they have that kind of material.

    I wonder if Cork material would work?? But it's kinda too thick.....does it have to be the right thickness??
     


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    Thickness might be an issue with float height - not sure. Any garage should be able to sell you a piece of sheet gasket. You then only have to draw around the original and use a modelling knife to make new ones. Before you tear everything apart though, have you tried running the bike long enough to clean out the cobwebs?
     


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    What happens if I run the bike with the carbs leaking like this, well....just think of a large KAAAABOOOOMMMM!!!

    Even if I can use paper towels, they soak up within seconds!!!

    Not to mention, that the number 4 cylinder in the front on the passenger side keeps leaking onto the header.:frown:

    I'm gonna try a garage, auto store, then Daugherty:thumbsup:

    Thanks

    Mike
     


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    I don't want you to blow your bike up, ending up on the 9 o'clock news. :eek: If they're leaking that bad it's going to be a gasket job.
     


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    By chance when you cleaned your carbs, did you replace the o-rings and gaskets? This is a must, so the carb seals properly.

    $39.68 is cheap. When I did mine, Honda wanted $75 for each carb.
     


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    I've never had to deal with carbs on a bike but i have worked on plenty of automotive carbs and the gaskets are usually one shot deals.Once you open them up if you don't replace them they end up leaking.
     


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    I kinda knew the carb gaskets were a one shot deal, but so many told me otherwise.

    No worries though, I will be replacing them. How would I see if the bowl gaskets on other VF's would fit??

    Also, when I took my carbs out for cleaning, I only cleaned the passages and jets. I never upset any o-rings. Hence, I don't need any o-rings.

    I couldn't get to Napa yesterday, but I'll try tomorrow.

    Stay tuned, cause I'm sure I'll run into yet another problem. lol:rolleyes:

    Thanks
     


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    only the 500 carb gaskets will fit. the 700 and 750,1000 all have different gaskets.
     


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    Contact JamieDaugherty I think he had all you need for a good price.
     


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