Anti-photo license plate covers

I believe Oregon is the same if not similar to Washington. I do know that here the owner of the vehicle will be charged unless you can prove it was someone else driving you lent your car to.

 

Actually, i think they'd hand deliver... :lock1:

 

I'm telling you, the only legal way, is to find a way to keep your plate dirty. Go buy some tar or something and splash it on the plate so that is conceals or hides some of the letters.

Its the only legal way I know of. It's not modification because they can't prove you did it intentionally, and its not negligance because that doesn't apply to parking violations.

 

I put a fender eliminator on my bike so the plate is so far up under the back of the bike the cameras can't see it. I know this because I got snapped at one trying to follow some other bikes but never got a ticket. Not in the habit of running lights though.

 

:lol: Yup, I even have a course check it out: Dealing with the po-po

I know it's a controversial topic and near my job there are two intersections with the red light cameras. From what I have read in news reports and my own experiences, red light cameras really just increase rear-end collisions. Check out this source: Do red light cameras work too well? - Crime & courts- msnbc.com Note the quote: In Lubbock, Texas, the City Council shut down all its cameras last month, citing a report that showed statistically significant increases in rear-end collisions at intersections, including those with cameras.

I think the real problem is they need to allow more room for error in changing lights. By "coincidence" the intersections with red light cameras have real short yellow light times. Drivers aren't robots and you just have to allow an occassional error within a reasonable range. Now, I can understand a blatant red light running like running it when the light's been red for over a second but it's bordering on ridiculous when you can get a ticket for when the light is red for less than half a second.

 

Most states specify in the legal code that plates must be visible at all times. That is why they can pull you over for no plate light, etc. Moving the plate or even keeping it dirty is probable cause for a pull over or even a citation. Ergo-illegal.
Sorry to be a buzzkill, but it will bite you.
STOP BREAKING THE LAW.

 

I'm just really amazed at how many of you are just flat out scoff laws and plain 'ol have not much regard for the rules.
If you play and get caught, you pay. Simple. If y'all spent as much time and effort with some type of constructive endeavor as opposed to try to get away with, skirt, or just get over on traffic laws you'd be far ahead of the game.
As to the stop light camera thing, it's a revenue generator, period. It is just as Hootch said (here in Fla.) It's a municipality thing, not a LEO thing. I would pay the fine, chalk it up to experience and pay closer attention in the future. Of course that's just me, and I'm kinda, well, a realist.

{mumbles, where's that flame suit?}

 

Uhhh, ya'll are making me feel guilty, every time I jump on my bike I can't stop humming "Breaking the Law" by Judas Priest.... let the first bike that has not been over 100mph cast the first stone.

 

I'm not casting ANY stones. I'm an advocate of IF YOU PLAY, YOU PAY.
I believe that if you try and circumvent the law; you deserve whatever you get, if you get caught at it.


BTW, to the author of that wonderful post "Dealing with the Po Po". Take a ride down to my AO and try to get out of one of my citations, GL with that....LOL...
Documentation is my middle name, I also have video, audio and a % of wins that would baffle your little mind. Have I lost in court on UTCs? yes. EARLY in my career. Not so much anymore; but bring it, I welcome the challenge. There is a traffic lawyer that works my judicial circuit, he's a young hot shot who has learned to respect the brothers and I in my area, we work heavy traffic due to narcotics trafficking and contraband on a major state road in a tri-county area. He has figured it is better to come speak to us first and see if we will agree to adjudication withheld, points assessed and fines / court costs. Again, please come visit your neighbor to the south and stop and see me and my "friends". We'd love to have you..

 

Spike not only hit the nail on the head, he used a nail gun. Hootch is right on the money with Intersection Cameras. I never have supported Speed Cameras., JSHERER91 must consider "Obstructed Licence Plate" an offence just about everywhere I know of, But Drewl just about covers it all. And Joey, If the yellow light is really too short, go time it. Compare it with others. And take this info to City Engineering. Different sized intersections or different engineered intersections need differently times lights. Lobby to get them changed. There is no need for intersction collisions. Someone is doing something wrong. Rear Enders are from someone going too fast, or following too close. Not from someone braking or stopping no matter how hard the brake. They may be braking for a child, or me for that matter.

 

I'm ahead of you there buddy, I wrote a letter over a year ago to the city hall about that and they acknowledged that the yellow lights are indeed set too short. That worked but then I noticed like about 6 months later they were too short again... :bs:

 

Here is what a hot shot lawyer in Phoenix that specializes in these says: if it was not a registered letter they cannot prove you got it. Don't send anything in. Apparently, the stats show people ignoring them is by far the most common approach. Me? I'd pay it. Here, the speed cameras are signed! So you know where they are (seems like an odd thing for them to do...this way you can drive 100 until you see the sign and then slow down.) The red-light cameras are NOTORIOUS here because they grab so many people (due to the short yellow/left turn set-up) so if you get caught in them you are...um, not-so bright. I agree with someone above, they make people very itchy and they stop on a dime now so beware of collisions! And many of us just avoid those intersections now. They ARE money-making opportunities for the local government, not the LEO's.

 

IMO, speeding should not be against the law, except in residential and populated areas, or when weather conditions dictate otherwise. I'm a law abiding citizen fior the most part, but speed limits make driving and riding a bore. I exceed the speed limit most of the time. Sometimes a little and sometimes a lot. If I get caught, I'll man up and pay the fine. But I'm not going to stop doing it.

But running red lights has never been part of my repertoire.

 

I think we are all in agreement that in populated/city areas yes, we all need to obey the laws, the safety of the public does come first and foremost, but give us an open stretch of highway where we can "stretch out legs" and off we go.......
I was a LEO for 6 years, breaks my heart that because of my family I needed a higher income to support them, regardless I will always respect LEO as I wanted to be respected.
Come-on it's Judas Priest man..........................http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psTUiQzNoxw&NR=1
Back to topic.....wait, what was the topic?

 

Haha that just made my day
Breaking the law breaking the law and out with the air guitar

 

Here's a story that'll make you feel like a real angel.

Once I started getting familiar with my bike I wanted to see how it could handle above 100 mph. There's a road that has no houses, no intersections, nothing for at least a quarter mile and it's straight. Oh, and there's even a raised concrete median for extra safety.

So I got it up to at least 120 and then slowed down because that quarter mile runs out fast and a curve is coming up ahead. Guess what I see coming in the opposite direction? :mod: Whew!

Figuring that was just a fluke, I turned around and got it up to around 120 again, man this bike is stable and smooth and here comes the curve again, time to slow down. and yet. I saw ANOTHER :mod:

I didn't want to push my luck so I just called it a day then a week later, the speed bug bit bad and I got it up to around 130 this time. By the time I slowed down, yep, I saw a cop AGAIN!! I start thinking, where did all these cops come from and man I'm one lucky sucker to get it over 120 three times almost in front of a cop and getting away with it!

I cruise a little further and I see where alll those cops are coming from. There's a sheriff's department less than a quarter mile away. LOL Well, hey, if you think about it that's a good place to speed because they figure nobody's that crazy to speed less than a quarter mile away from a police station!

 

in nj a yellow light legally has to be 1 sec for every 10 mph of posted speed

 

Thanks Joey, now I really do feel better!

 

I read a recent article in a magazine (I think it was Readers Digest) about how cities are dealing with their budget shortfalls. It was talking about how the cities are relying more and more on the police force to generate revenue for the city through tickets. Ticketing at even 5 over is happening more and more. It had some interviews with a few police officers that did not agree with these tactics either.

It seems wrong to attempt to correct budget shortfalls by basically putting a tax (speeding ticket) on citizens who are already over taxed. I know even 5 to 10 over is still speeding but it still seems like their are bigger fish to fry and more relevent crimes to be looking after. I would expect to "pay to play" if speeding was excessive...oh well,I could probably go on and on so I'll just leave that

 

Well I'm not really in to doing this myself however in theory you can make you plate come up as as void by putting infrared lights/LED's from Radio Shack around it. Or in some way keep the plate heated to around 120F that will help with a void to a camera since most are digital camera and infrared brighter or higher then normal heat makes a void.