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  1. Faith7

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    Fair enough, you want a reason to "believe" why one book is different-this is easy and probably will go till next year
    1) Mr. Harold Hill, President of the Curtis Engine Co. in Baltimore Md, and a consultant in the space program states:
    His company was checking out where the positions of the sun, moon, and planets would be 100 years and 1,000 years from now. They have to know this so they don't send up a satellite and have it bump into something later on in it's orbit.
    They ran the computer measurements back and forth over the centuries, and it came to a halt. The computer stopped and put up a red signal, which meant there was something wrong with either the information fed into it or with the results as compared to the standards.
    There was no answer.
    A christian man on the team said, 'You know,one time I was in Sunday School, and they talked about the sun standing still.' While they did not believe him they did not have a answer either, so they said,'Show us,'
    He got a Bible (notice not the Khouran as you say nor any other dictionary or doctrine of religion) and went to the book of Joshua where they found a ridiculous statement for anyone with 'common sens.' (read seidts)
    There they found the Lord saying to Joshua,
    'Fear them not,I have delivered them into thy hand; there shall not a man of them stand before thee.'
    Joshua was concerned because he was surrounded by the enemy! And if darkness fell, they would overpower them. So Joshua asked the Lord to make the sun stand still! That's right..."The sun stood and the moon stayed and lasted not to go down about a whole day!"(Joshua 10:12-13)
    The astronauts and scientist said, There is the missing day! They checked the computers going back into the time it was written and found it was close but not close enough. The elapsed time that was missing back in Joshua's day was 23 hours and 20 minutes. Not a whole day.
    They read the Bible, and there it was about (approximately) a day. These little words in the Bible are important, but they were still in trouble because if you cannot account for 40 minutes, you'll still be in trouble 1000 years from now.
    Forty minutes had to be found because it can be multiplied many times over in orbits. As the Christian employee thought about it, he remembered somewhere in the Bible where it said the sun went BACKWARDS.
    The scientist told him he was out of his mind, but they got out the Book and read these words in 2 KIngs that told of the following story:Hezekiah, on his death bed, was visited by the prophet Isaiah who told him that he was not going to die. Hezekiah asked for a sign as proof. Isaiah said "Do you want the sun to go ahead 10 degrees?"
    Hezekiah said, "It is nothing for the sun to go ahead 10 degrees, but let the shadow return backward 10 degrees." Isaiah spoke to the Lord and the Lord brought the shadow ten degrees BACKWARD! Ten degrees is exactly 40 minutes!
    Twenty-three hours and 20 minutes in Joshua, plus 40 minutes in Second Kings make the missing day in the universe! Isn't it amazing?
    References:Joshua 10:8 and 12,13 and 2 Kings 20:9-11.

    No other book is involved in history in this manner, hence, I do not need 5 or 6 books of religious doctrine. I do not like proving people wrong because that makes them mad, however, I love proving the Lord right. Like I said IT IT WRITTEN- prove the Bible wrong. If you cannot do that then I would consider accepting it.
     


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  2. Seidts

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    Faith7, have you done the math yourself? If not, then go consult your astronomy charts and come back to me with YOUR answer not some blather about Glenn Curtis' hack presidential successor. I suppose that you are a creationist as well?
    And I pray to MY god that you don't say yes.

    Tell me why, whenever there is some solid "proof" that the bible is the truth, it is always Nasa or some other swallow-able agency "that must be telling the truth"?
    The truth is that MEN (mere mortals) have been calculating the movement of the sun, planets and stars long before NASA even had a toy rocket to play with. These men have not come up with such a calculation. Why now? Why NASA? Bullshit needs to weigh something for people to believe in it, so they pick NASA and Curtis. Didn't they make airplanes in world war two?
    And to further debunk your theory, assuming that there was a missing day that would mean there would have to be a starting point and present point of reference to find missing time in between. I suppose that the start point is when your god waved his hand and the heavens were created.
    This does not jive with this homie. Homie don't play that.
    The real shit is when the Mayan Calendar comes to an end. What are we going to do then? In my lifetime, I have personally witnessed the day that the world is supposed to end come and go at least a half dozen times with the promise that the next time it would be for real. I'm a bit skeptical at this point. So please spare me your Joshua.
    But I'd love to talk creation stuff......:fish:
     


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  3. John451

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    It will either click over to Zeros and start again or become a redundant amusment nothing more.

    The real poo happens when the magnetic poles swap over within the next 40 to 2000 years, this is a naturally occuring potentially destructive phenomenon throughout earths history and nothing to do with any religion of man.
     


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    I am a creationist! And, THIS HOMIE DOES PLAY THAT. If you want to talk- let's talk.
     


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  6. CARMINE

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    hi, Guys
    what about stopping this thread ? We are going far from our intentions : let us talk about engines, rectifiers, switches, tires etc.....that is the aim of this site. I know, the world is bad, too much cruel but we can not change it with our dialogs on this site.
    Where has it gone the friendship and the mutual respect and spirit of co-operation I found on this site ? The bombs and the missiles (wherever they are coming from) are killing noy only Gaza and Israel but also our biker style and souls.
    I hope my english is enough good to well explain all that I wanted to say.
    Lamps, not BOMS to all VFR owners !
    Carmine ( and I do not belong to a "quiet" country...as you know).
     


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    This thread is done since they both agreed to stop fighting for awhile.
     


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  8. Seidts

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    ""This thread is done since they both agreed to stop fighting for awhile.""

    No, I had a few things to do today. You know the usual for a sunday: Bloody ritual sacrifice of a goat or some other cloven hoofed animal. Lots of virgins. Jeeze, I get tired of virgins after a while. Can't I have someone with experience? I get tired of having to do the training first before business. No matter what anyone says, virgins are lots of work. You can bet on it.

    The thing I like about the magnetic poles shifting is that they have no idea if it will be bad or not bad. They just know that it will happen "someday" The other thing we have to worry about is if Yellowstone has a full eruption. Another thing to worry about is the fact that there is no way to predict, beyond a few days notice, a full impact from a large meteor. The sun is going to go nova.
    That would kill everybody, even Osama bin Laden (and no one can seem to do that). It would even kill the Muslims and the Jews. It would turn the earth in to a place so inhabitable, Dick Cheney wouldn't like it and he would go back to the eighth inner circle of hell.
    The truth is that this planet is a sitting duck in this solar system and there is nothing we can do about it. The earth is not here forever and my lifetime and your lifetime and all of human history for that matter is the equivalent of a single spark impulse from your engines coil on a "few times round the world" trip; or to be exact, squat. We have built this society and that one and it all means absolutely squat in the grand scheme of the universe. If you can say the there is meaning, it is only meaning that we assign to what we want to have meaning. The Bible, The Khouran, the I-ching, The church of the flying spaghetti monster, ect., all meant nothing until a human put some meaning down.
    Remember that the round world did not even exist but in radical theory until a very short time ago. A round world had no meaning and the flat world, with boogey men at the ends, had the stage and the consciousness. The world is not flat anymore and is wasn't flat when Adam and Eve got it on for the first time.
    (In sticking with the spirit of the forum I should say that the world was flat (figuratively) before the invention of the V-4 engine for the motorbike by Honda. But when pressed for a reason for such a design, I would have to say because the world was a twisty, hilly, round ball on which we could ride this V-4 flaming dragon.)
    Creationism. I'm sorry. I'm not going to touch it for the sake of the forum. Dammit, we're here bitching about Israel, and NOT the mere question of our existence!!!! I refuse to cloud the waters here and disrespect the Squirrel and the Knife and the Stewie. For they come seeking answers to their questions about Israel and Palestine and "how much of that bag did I smoke" and "which butt cheek itches today" and "what the hell is that left-wing, commie pinko going to say today. Hold on let me get my beer. ok nao I kin teern on this hear iternit thangy en aw aw yeh theer eet is. c'moan skwirrl shew me wut yu got."


    All I'm going to say is that you are wrong about the creation thing and god told me so. Well, actually a virgin told me but she was convincing. :bootyshake2:
     


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  9. Knife

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    Can we please get back to the important question at hand, and that is whether or not farts are funny?
     


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    Depends if your deaf or not.
     


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  11. squirrelman

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    i'm quoting my own self here...
    .....as a reminder that the invasion of Gaza and the deaths of 1300 people, the injury of countless others, was a political stunt by an israeli PM under threat of impeachment in a pitiful attempt to look tough by kicking ass.

    THIS is what the US MUST STOP by witholding further aid !!
    (I'm not expecting much from obama or hillery)

    THE REMAINING QUESTION IS THIS: DID Israel create more enemies than it eliminated????
     
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  12. Molsan

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    Odd i'm not expecting much eather...

    Also yes you predicted the end of this...

    What else would we expect?
    Isreal to take land and hold it?no
    To take forever and occupy hamas area's? no

    This conflict was over as soon as it started, it's out come was known. Everything about it was predictable.

    This was a hamas political stunt, not an isreal stunt.

    Hammas was hopping to drum up sympathy, and they knew exactly what Isreal would do when HAMAS failed to renew the cease fire.
    Again Hamas failed to renew the cease fire.
    Isreal wanted the cease fire only they where keeping.

    Hamas instigated this war.

    the 900 dead terrorists and civilians are blood on hamases hands, not isreal.
    If hamas wanted to prevent civilian casualties they could.
    by not hiding in schools, churches, aid stations and such..
    or god forbid(hehe pun) stop shotting rockets and spewing hate at isreal.
     


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  13. CARMINE

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    hey Guys,
    You have a new President, God bless him and America. Hope for a new world without wars between Israel and Palestine and all over the world.
    This is my wish for you. Stay safe Obama, have a good ride !
    Lamps !
    Carmine
     


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  14. squirrelman

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    Apparenty, according our right honourable member Molsan, Israel has never ever done anything wrong and is incabable of doing wrong??

    Israel was in VIOLATION of the cease-fire agreement from day 1 by NOT OPENING the Gaza borders, and the harmless Hamas rockets were a valid PROTEST to that violation!
     
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  15. Knife

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    What is a "harmless" rocket? That's an oxymoron if I ever heard one.

    I'm convinced you say these things just to get a response. You can't possibly believe anything you say. Hope you're having fun.
     


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  16. Molsan

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    Woot, Honorable.
    I never said Isreal never did anything wrong. Did i not link there history and condem them for bombing the british embasy? I can see both sides of the issue.

    The Gaza boarders where closed because of hamas.
    the deaths where caused by hamas.

    So hamas is reacting to events that they set in motion by firing rockets? and you think this is okay?

    Just a what if situation.

    IF hamas stoped shooting rockets and sending bombs and other acts of terror towards isreal.
    Would gaza be closed?

    Hamas is responsable for the closed boarder.

    Also does Gaza not share a boarder with Egypt? why must everything flow form Isreal?
    There to busy smuggaling rockets to build anything of value.

    the cease fire means stop shooting at each other....yet hamas is still shooting.

    I still can't believe firing rockets at civilians would ever be considered valid protest over an expected response.

    Did they expect to keep attacking and have isreal not protect it's self?
     


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  17. CARMINE

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    Sorry...
    just a technical question to squirrelman (about my VFR 750 (87) : under my tank there is a tube (on the left side) that goes to the fuel pump, it is the fuel line. ok, but in a technical manual I saw that on the right side there is a "breather tube" that goes I don't know where. Under my tank (right side) there is a "valve" without hose/tube. What is its function ? For air tank compensation or ? Have I to install a hose going to...?
    May be this the cause of an irregular and randomic behavior of the engine (like sudden lack of power and rough idle ?
    Thank you so much!
    lAMPS !
    CARMINE
     


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  18. squirrelman

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    THE REMAINING QUESTION IS THIS: DID Israel create more enemies than it eliminated????



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    Carm, per favore, we've got some molto serioso issues to discuss here, not your or anyone's bike, prego!
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    .....i think the tube you're referring to is a water drain from the area around the benzina filler cap, and no hose is no problema.
     
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