Pgm-fi

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  1. Peter the Wolf

    Peter the Wolf New Member

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    To all the forum's technical wizzards,
    I have a problem which seems tricky to me but maybe trivial to
    others.
    A year ago I had a nasty accident with my beloved black VFR. A cab driver
    who changed his mind in the middle of the left waiting line for the lights
    decided to cut to the right. He did it almost perpendiculary across three
    lanes, while I was traveling at about 100 kph toward the green lights. Tried
    to veer with him but lost the front in a hysterical lowside. The bike
    rocketed into the cab and got stuck underneath. I spilled on the road and
    came away with a dislocated right shoulder, a broken finger on the let foot
    and some superficial scratches along my right side. But the bike, it got the
    full brunt of the impact. Everything that didn't fit under the cab was
    stripped clean. I was evacuated to a hospital and the bike towed away. After
    a couple of week when I mustered up the courage to take a look at it I was
    in tears. All the front fairings and radiators gone, the front cowl with all
    the electronics shattered, handlebars broken off and in general a sorry
    picture. On the other hand I was the owner of a basic 2006 VFR with intact
    engine, frame, suspension and undamaged rear fairings. At the beginning I
    tried to sell this basic setup but didn't succeed. Then I started to think
    about restoring it to original. The bad news was that the cost of parts was
    prohibitive, approaching the worth of the bike itself (here in Israel the
    price of bikes is twice the price in the US and the parts four times as
    much). Then I decided to turn it into a streetfighter. It took a few months
    of shopping around to find a passing front mask, a GP style digital
    instruments cluster, one piece handlebars, a convex radiator for front
    mounting and a great looking "Screemin Devil" short muffler.
    And here we encountered the big problem!
    Nobody noticed the missing PGM-FI unit! It must have been lost in the accident or snitched by the tow driver.
    This is where the collective knowledge of the forum is called upon to help.
    I have a friend coming from the states in two weeks and gave him the assignement to purchase a new PGM for me.
    The part number is 38770-MCW-H01. The problem is that the US part number is 38770-MCW-K01.
    I need to know if it is the same PGM and more important, what is the correct start up procedure.
    Sorry I couldn't resist telling the whole story.
    I will greatly appreciate your thoughts and advices on the matter. Even sentimental support is welcome
    Thanks for your patience
    Peter the Wolf
     


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  2. drewl

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    Welcome aboard. Nice to see the Holy Land represented.
    Sorry about the crash, glad you are recovering well.
    If you check the site servicehonda.com you can check the part number. A service manual will be invaluable to you in getting the bike running. You may have your friend pick one up for you, or order it on-line. I believe servicehonda.com has those too.
    Good luck.
     


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  3. Peter the Wolf

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    Thanks for the sympathy. I checked the servicehonda.com found the partnumber but couldn't talk to anybody since they are closed on Wednesdays. Will try tomorrow.
    In the meantime nobody seems to pick up the thread, so if you have some personal friends who are versed in electronics, please alert them to have a look, maybe someone will have a valuable contribution to the issue.
    If it is more convenient here is my e-mail: peter_nm@netvision.net.il
    Cheers
     


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    Many times when the last set of numbers changes on a Honda part number, it only means that it's been superceeded by an upgraded part. Have you tried asking a dealership about the part number discrepancy?
     


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    I found this on a Honda part number decoding site, it may help.....

    The third string of digits (XXXXX-XXX-000) is the Classification Number. I believe it is mostly used to indicate various suppliers or improvements for the same part.

    in other words the KO1 is likely an update from H01
     


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  6. Peter the Wolf

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    Thanks guys, I think I can risk installing an "american" PGM in an otherwise "european" VFR. The local dealership is not very cooperative, I think they don't want to deal with a "pirate part" in a modified bike. The next step is of course how you power up the thing.
    Does it read the first key inserted or needs some preprogramming.
     


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