Bike to bike communications

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  1. gazzarn

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    Hi All.....My girlfriend and I go out on our bikes together she has a 2005 R1 and I have my beloved 2006 silver VFR... We seem to get split up quite a lot as she cant keep up :ncb: lol so we where after a good set of bluetooth comms anyone with a good recommendation would be welcome....Ive read about the garmin zumo 500TFM but at 550 british pounds its pretty expensive, even though its sat nav, mp4 player, hands free phone kit etc anyone who has one are you pleased with it??? Take it easy and bye for now :cheersaf:
     


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    In my humble opinion, if ya wanna do it right, purchase Autocom's Super Pro AVi kit for both bikes, and configure this system with the Kenwood FreeTalk FM/GMRS 2-way radios (available through Autocom), including Autocom's optional hardwired powerpacks for the radios. The initial cost is substantial, but the benefits (including complete freedom from the vagaries of wireless connections as well as not having to rely on batteries) is enormous.
     


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    ill look into it thanks :cheersaf:
     


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    Blue tooth is no good unless you are within close range less than 100 feet... The better option is Midland FRS/GMS radios with helmet mic and speaker set up. Can see them in the Reg71 / SloVFR West trip thread. Works the best for the money around $150.00 and under...
     


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    +1 to that. We have over 1000 miles trouble free once we got the insulated motorcycle wiring for these. I even bought a set of the radios to have here at home. Even hooking it through the autocomm cuts down the output and makes it difficult to hear IMO. Possibly if our autocom users had been using better radios we'd have heard them or they us, but we didn't have a way to test that. Maybe we can run some more tests on that when we get a group together again, but to reiterate, If you want to talk and do it on the cheap and be able to actually hear each other, the radios are the way to go...

    You need one of these for each helmet: FRYS.com | Midland

    And one set of these: Midland GXT750VP3 22-Channel 26-Mile GMRS 2-Way Radio - GXT750VP3 - Buy.com

    You can shop around for the radios but they usually run in this price range. This link above gives you 2 radios and a charger to recharge the batteries. The charge last about 5 hours of gabbing back and forth on the bikes I think. The radios will also accept standard batteries and the Li-ion energizers last over a day of yakking. Even on the low power channels Brian and I were able to get about a mile apart and still talk.
     


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    and you can plug an mp3 into these as well?
     


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    My wife and I have the Scala rider Multiset. The multiset is brand new, it is 2 Q2 headsets except that a MP3 can be plugged into (actual wire, not bluetooth) the base of the headset (an option not available on a regular Q2). The headsets are bluetooth paired with each other and you can also pair a phone and a gps to each headset

    We love them. Scala advertises a range of 1,600-feet for rider to rider communication. My experience would probably put that closer to 1,000-feet. It varies based upon the area you are riding. But whenever you are in range you have clear communication without the CB effect of the first person having to finish talking before the second can be heard. Well worth the money IMO.
     


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    Slippin, can you post up a pic of your helmet with the Scala? does the wired MP3 give you stereo?
     


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    I am afraid I don't have a picture handy, but if you follow the link you get a review with some good pics.

    Yes, the MP3 is in stereo (hardwire) the other bluetooth functions are not. The sound from the 2 speaker system is ok for music, not great. Certainly nothing the sound you could get from earbuds. To me voices talking sound much better/clearer than music through the speakers - so I tend to listen to podcasts versus music. If you mainly want to listen to music this is not the way to go. But being able to listen to music, along with the other functions is a nice feature.
     


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    not the way we did it. everything you add to the system decreased the output in our experience. what I did was wear my mp3 earplugs in my ears and kept the volume at about 1/2 it let me hear the music but when brian would talk it came over the helmet speakers and was loud enough to hear. Again, we were after the CHEAPEST USEABLE system and I think we found it. Everything else we looked at with the exception of the old FM style stuff that radioshack used to sell that brian had originally gotten from Tori was too expensive or had poor performance. I'm sure you could get all the autocom stuff and make it work as well, but you are gonna be over $500 into it, and we are talking $140 for two radios and 2 headsets. Big difference.
     


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    Bike to Bike comms

    Here's the list of items what I got emailed back from Autocom, they said I would get Chrystal clear comms with phone, sat nav and mp4 inputs which automatically turn down when you speak or receive a phone call. Expensive though.


    2x Kit 300 Duo’s £280 (Super Pro AVi main rider and pillion kits sold cheaper due to our UK offer)

    2x Part 1358 £396 (Kenwood TK3201 transceivers)

    2x Part 1402 £54 (Kenwood dummy battery power and audio packs)

    1x Part 1276 £75 (Bluetooth phone connection via the Zumo)

    1x Part 1314 £28 (Isolated music lead to connect the music and GPS side of the Zumo)

    Let me know if you have the same set up and how it works please before i splash out 800 GBP on it :unsure:

    cheers guys

    Gazzarn
     


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    I don't have autocom but I have read a lot of reviews on it and they all pretty much said that autocom is the best, but you have to pay more to get it... I think their cust service is good also but again, I have never used them. I just can't shell out that kind of money for comms.
     


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