VP pick of Palin.. what does it mean?

Even I have to admit that this is one of the dumbest things McCain has ever proposed. I passed on a $200,000 house, because I couldn't afford the payment on a 15yr Fixed rate mortgage. Yeah, I could've gone for the longer, or the adjustable mortgage. But, that was when you had to PAY for the things you bought. I hope McCain will think better of this soon. This plan sounds like something a Dem. would come up with. I am TIRED of paying for the mistakes of others!!!

 

eddie-I just read something online that McCain is now adding something to his new mortgage plan, we'll see how this works out.

LOL - It does actually sound like something a Dem. would come up with, oddly enough.

And I agree that there needs to be good and bad info. on all candidates, it just gets old after awhile. I know I can speak for many others that seeing those political ads on tv over and over and over again don't do anything for changing my mind about any particular candidate. This is especially true since we all know that the mud they are slinging is distorted to almost slanderous proportions. I don't pay any attention to them because of this fact.

 

I agree with you on that one. But eddie you gotta admit, the stuff mccain/palin are digging up are ridiculous. When Ayers was in his rebellious stage Obama was 5 years old. when they worked together they were both adults and both worked on successful programs. Why not go survery all the people in Obama's neighborhood and see whom parking space he took, or borrowed a pen and didnt return it why dont you. McCain yelled out about this expensive overhead projector...well he failed to mention that this was for the plantetarium and it was used to further math and science research..."Say it aint so, Joe". i read an article on cnn.com that researched all the various points the candidates were saying. 90-95% of McCain/Palin statements were either misleading or False. 90-95% of Obama/Biden this were True. I like the mudslinging also, but give me something worth it...the stuff McCain/Palin are coming up with is not decision swaying in the least. As far as palin/biden debate..it was biden hands down. If Palin was running for VP of the trailer park, or a seat on the committe of hockey moms and joe six packs, she would have had my vote hands down. But VP of MY COUNTRY...NO!!!!!!! and how do you refuse to answer questions during the interview process and talk about what makes you feel comfortable, and expect to still get the job is WAAAY beyond me...And when does labeling yourself a MAVERICK and repeating it a 100 times make you qualified for the highest job in the land.

Hey i am just saying....maybe you all can help me figure it out.

And in the meantime, i like to send a "shout-out" to VFRW for allowing me to speak my truth.

 

again eddie i agree with you. i am tired of paying for others mistakes also, which is why i am voting the way i am voting because its time for a change. yeah that is true does sound like a democrat thought that one up, BUT a republi-McCain did...sounded more or less like a quick life line he grabbed for, to sway voters..cause he kinda stumbled when he mentioned it. so maybe that is why he is revising it so that the people who made the right choices about thier homes dont further get :ncb: by the government all that bad while helping those mathematically challenged folks out. who were led to believe that there is a way to get blood from a turnip...just gotta SQQQQQUUUEEEEEEZE.... hard enough.

"W" comes out this month....should be good for a few tears, laughs, and vote changes.

Just my 2 cents.

OBAMA/BIDEN 08

 

Obama says "Change, Change, Change". Change to what? More taxes, bigger govt? By voting Obama, you may be jumping from the frying pan into the fire, and pulling the rest of us along. It's not that I am crazy about McCain, he's just the lesser of two evils.

 

Yes with your logic, lets just vote for the evil of two lessers.

 

Bottom Line

1.) Palin is dangerous. If anyone in this room believes she could take over the government if McCain were to be out then you are lieing yourself just so you feel good about McCain! If you believe taht then you are so Republican that you would vote that ticket if he had Ayers as a running mate.
2.) ALL OUR WOES RIGHT NOW ARE FROM DEREGULATION. I saw it first hand in the 80's and it took away the government from monitoring companies back then. THERE IS NOT ONE CORPORATION ON THIS PLANET THAT WOULD NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A SITUATION (LIE-CHEAT-STEEL) IF THEY ARE NOT WATCHED AND REGULATED!!!!!!!!
LAST:
Less government and less spending from the Republican side as your WAR CRY??? Have you been living here during the last 8 years??? McCains new plan for buying back homes is A GOVERNMENT RUN WELFARE PROGRAM FOR THOSE THAT ARE LOOSING THEIR HOMES. YES A MULTI BILLION POSSIBLE MULTI TRILLION DOLLAR PROGRAM. As they are saying now "You are paying for their bad behaviour"

 

Obama has not been cryptic about the change he seeks. He's been very upfront about it. His goal is to repair the aspects of government that haven't been working so well. He wants to focus on the education, adequate healthcare, clean energy, a healthy environment, rights for all citizens, etc...
All these issues have been abandoned these last 8 years. As for big government, the government has never been bigger than under the 8 years with Bush. Spend has been the highest in history. Republicans used to be about fiscal responsibility and executive discipline; however, these last 8 years have been examples of the opposite. McCain has been at Bush's side through most of this. We all know he has voted in Bush's favor 90 percent of the time. What does this say about the change McCain will bring?

We actually have a candidate who wants to bring respect back to the U.S. He wants equity across the socioeconomic strata, so the burden isn't disproportionately placed on the middle class. He's proposed a tax cut on the middle class, which most of us belong to. He believes healthcare is a right for every citizen not just those who can afford the exorbitant premiums that rise yearly.

My last point is that a president should have character. He should have character when times are good and when times are tough. McCain has shown that he lacks character. He's gone back on his values so many times during this campaign and Obama has been constant. He hasn't attacked McCain with bogus allegations. McCain has many skeletons in his closet and Obama hasn't opened that door except to defend himself. McCain chooses to do things similar to what was done to him by Bush in the 2000 primary election. McCain's campaign slogan is "Country First". Do you think he was thinking about his country when he chose someone as unqualified as Palin as his VP? Obama chose someone knowledgable who could compliment him. I want a president that I can look up to. Someone I'm proud to call my President. For me, Obama is that man. Can you be proud of McCain?

 

And McCain isnt yelling Change, he has to, he has to separate his self from his fellow repub W...but he is saying we are going to basically uses the same thought process we used for the last 8 years and hope things will turn out different this time cause we gotta new driver...We repubs know we messed up last time with Geroge W., but hey if ya just trust in a Maverick we can make it out of these terrible times.... That is a sign of insanity. Doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result.

Eddie we are already in the fire....

 

Finally someone has clearly explained whats going on...For Democrat supporters turn the Captions ON, the subtitles are overdramatic for sure but unfortunately think there may be some truth in there. :unsure:

YouTube - Ker-plunk 1 of 2

 

Well, I got news for McCain and Palin. My 401k is hemmoraging its value. I really do not give a flying f*ck about what McCain and Palin are saying about Obama's past relationship with Ayers and Wright. It's the economy, Stupids!

 

I think that all of them are just running around spewing crap out to keep the viewing public's undivided attention, while Paulson and Bernanke come up with their next big money milking plan.

Paulson is talking about the govt taking part ownership of the large banks!!!! Where are we people the Soviet Bloc, China? What's going on here.

Vs

 

Wow, I can see why a Canadian with your exceptional intellect and education would want to vote for a republican. It is only while drunk that a man can articulate with the crystal clear brilliance that you have so proudly displayed. If only I could spell, speak,and write with the same charisma as yourself! It is really too bad that you're not a citizen, because if you were, you would be able to help out with the effort to keep America and it's leaders as dumb as fucking sanity permits with your well informed vote!

Con yu sie ruissia fom yur hose in canadaaahhh!!!

 

Today on MSNBC one of the anchors went on a little rant about how the candidates needed to be talking about the issues and especially the economy, only to welcome two political analysts onto the show to discuss Palin's cover on Newsweek(?or some other mag) regarding just how unflattering it was to the Governess!! They talked about that crap for over 15 minutes. How the photo was too close up and that she was not touched up for printing!!!! The mainstream media is a joke. Thanks for the internet!

Vs

 

Funny the 'world' does not seem to think so , in fact he is WAY ahead in terms of world opinon. Let's set this straight' Obama is the best thing that could happen to the world (per the World). I say this because it is a more acurate statement of fact.

 

Forgive me Molson. I was far too interested in your astute observations to notice the comment about the inept voting public in America, There for I am amending my opinion of you. You are absolutely correct regarding the stupidity of the majority of the voting population in the U.S.!

Allow me to explain, We have had twenty two years in the last thirthy controlled by republicans. That means eight years in the last thirty for the democrats. Try to follow!! During those thirty years we have received ( i before e except after c ) very little respect from the world regarding our world policy. That excludes the eight years the democrats had power. It was during those same eight years that America experienced the most economic strength we've ever known!

So yes, Americans can be poor voters in that despite true historic facts regarding prosperity and common benefit we continue to vote for republicans and religous zealots!!

 

You're right about McCain having to distance himself from W, for sure. Yeah the stock market is in the dump, yeah my mutual funds are down. But, they are worth more today than I put in. And, it will come back. I understood the risks when I invested as did everyone else if they read their paperwork. I just can't believe that in the whole damn country, Obama and McCain are the best we have to offer??? Com'on some of the dems here would vote for Mickey Mouse if he got the dem nomination. I wouldn't vote for Obama for dog catcher, much less POTUS. Nobody good wants to be Pres anymore. The job of Pres would be a huge paycut for anyone really qualified. And, why would anyone want to put up with all the :bs: that goes along with it. In all the country, Obama is the best dem??? And, McCain is the best Rep??? IMO They both suck!! Obama is just more government, more taxes. Government screws up everything it touches, and Obama wants more of it.
Ronald Reagan, where are you when we need you most!!!! Please come back!!! (and, bring Elvis with you).

 

I found this somewhat interesting:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opini...ion shows GOP's lack of interest in governing


The Republican Party has held the White House for the past eight years and has controlled both chambers of Congress for 12 of the past 14. But if trends continue as they have, that run is about to come to an end.

With less than four weeks to Election Day, polls today suggest that Democrat Barack Obama will sit in the White House come January, enjoying enhanced majorities in both the House and Senate. And if that's how things play out, John McCain is doomed to be cast as the scapegoat by his fellow Republicans, in part because they never really liked him much in the first place.

Sarah Palin, by contrast, will reign as the party's crown princess.

You can already see the mythology beginning to take shape. Palin is being positioned by conservative media outlets as the stalwart defender of the faith, the true believer who is fighting the infidel with all her power but lacks a committed partner in McCain.

Palin's the one making the arguments that conservatives most want to hear, such as accusing Obama of "palling around with terrorists." When the McCain campaign decided to pull out of Michigan, it was Palin who repeatedly and publicly disagreed, insisting that the cause was not yet lost and that she could turn things around.

Palin's star will shine even brighter in defeat than in victory, and that would not bode well for her party.

The GOP's political problems have many causes, but distilled to its essence, it can be stated in one sentence: The Republican Party hasn't taken seriously the responsibilities of governing.

In fact, if the Republicans could govern as expertly and as diligently as they campaign -- if they simply cared as much about governing as campaigning -- the country might today be reaping the benefits of great prosperity and global respect, and the Democrats would have gone the way of the Whigs.

But look around: That's not exactly how things are.

The foundations of Republican success on the campaign trail have been appeals to tribal politics -- "they" aren't like "us" -- and the easy answers of ideology. But once in power, tribal politics, fixed ideology and a disdain for the hard work of governance have proved disastrous.

Unfortunately, Palin epitomizes that mindset. Tribal politics, easy ideology and disdain for governance define her as a candidate.

In the wake of Tuesday's debate, Joe Biden was making the rounds of the morning talk shows, chatting up his candidate's performance, while Sarah Palin was nowhere to be found. Why? Because she is an icon incapable of conversing as an intelligent adult on the issues of the day. Yet the Republican base loves her anyway, as a symbol.

In response to such criticism, Palin's defenders point out that Barack Obama is also short on experience. It's a legitimate point -- it is certainly fair to question whether Obama has the experience to do well as president of the United States.

However, there is no question whatsoever that Obama has studied the issues and knows them backward and forward. He takes the job seriously. You may disagree with the conclusions he has reached, but as the campaign has demonstrated, he knows the issues and has thought them through.

Palin can't even make a good pretense of that.

This country needs a more effective Republican Party. The Democrats need a more effective Republican Party to protect them from their own excesses. But to become effective again, the Republicans have to change, and they show no sign of doing so. Quite the contrary.

If the GOP loses seats in the House and Senate, those losses are likely to come in more moderate districts, distilling the GOP caucus even closer to its ultraconservative base. If McCain loses, conservatives will explain his loss by the fact that he tried to repudiate rather than celebrate party ideology.

And if Republicans designate Sarah Palin as the face of the party's future, as they seem eager to do, they will confirm the belief that they just aren't serious enough to trust with power.

 

yeah what he said...:cheersaf::vanity:

OBAMA/BIDEN 08

 

cat:

Come on down to the BBQ on the 18th, we'll have a Rolling Rock together.

I'm a conservative who feels the party has completely abandoned every conservative principle it once stood for and in the process has abondoned me as a voter.

Appreciated this post, just thought you should know.

Thanks.

BZ