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  1. sailortrash

    sailortrash New Member

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    I am a vfr noob but by no means a noob to riding it just took me a while that speed is not that important and that am no longer invinceable. I would like to know can you eliminate the linked braking system and if there is a way to install a switch to turn off the abs. Also what mods would you guys and gals reccomend for the bike. I plan to Use the bike as my main source of transportation. It will also be used for a lot of touring about 25% with a passenger. I am 6'6" about 190 gf is 5'8" 130. Do I need to upgradde the suspension or not? What is the average fuel range of the bike? What is the deal with putting buell foot pegs on the bike I have seen quite a few vfrs with them? I have ridden a 2002 but not enough to draw any real conclusions about the mods that I would want. So i was hoping to get advice from the forum. Thanks in advance.
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    derstuka Lord of the Wankers Staff Member

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    It might help if you tell us the year boss. Regarding suspension...stock kinda sucks, so upgrading is always better if you can afford the $$$. If you cannot afford to do a fork swap, then throwing in some RaceTech Springs, and maybe putting a fox or penske shock on the rear would help out nicely. If you are riding two up, you might want to at least bump the rear preload up a notch or so to help compensate.

    Here is an excellent article, by the master-delinker himself "MelloDude"

    Check it out...

    Mello Dude's Delink Thread


    OH, and WELCOME to the forum! Wherebouts you located?
     
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  3. mello dude

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    Hi,
    I didnt get whether you have already purchased a bike or still looking? Generally the 6th gen suspension that come stock is better than a 5th gens stock. Bucks can always fix the 5th, the 6th you could probly leave alone depending what you want. Brakes? Thats another issue. If you already have a 6th w/ABS, delinking is probly not a good idea as the electronix are tuned to a fully linked system. If you have a 5th or 6th without ABS, well, delink away, provided you have bucks and mechanical smarts to pull it off.

    Derstucka has got me pegged, I'm the original delink dumbass for VFRworld. Went in blindfolded with no outside help and threw bucks and major stubborness to get it done. Read the link - enjoy.

    Good luck dude!

    MD

    Master delinker? Never been called that but have been called something close....
     
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    Just out of curiousity why do you want to remove the linked braking?

    Hmmmm.....Maybe someone likes to do stoppies?? (Shrugs Chin)

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    My advice would be to ride it before you make the decision to delink the brakes. IMO unless you're riding on the track, lots of gravel roads, or running 98% on the street (not a good idea IMO) you won't have an issue with the linked brakes. The only complaint I have about the linked brakes is my rear brake pads have to be replaced as often as the front instead of lasting forever.
     
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    I agree, why disable linked brakes? Personally I like them. The only time they make any difference is if you use the rear brakes only since only the rears are linked. One piston of the left front caliper is linked with the rear brakes. There is no linking from the front brakes to the rear. If you use only the fronts or both front and rear you'll see no real difference.

    As to what needs to be added, only you can answer that. For me it was luggage, a sport touring screen and a Throttlemeister.
     
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    Still have not bought the bike. I am looking for a 6th gen. As far as the mods i just wnat to make it more comfortable and wanted to know what you guys have done.
     
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    Have to beg to differ - the front and rear brakes are interlinked. When you grab the front lever, you put pressure to the outer 2 pistons on the calipers and then the arm on the left side of the bike rotates and puts pressure on the 2nd master cylinder sending pressure thru the proportioning valve to the rear calipers. On the other end of the stick, if you hit the rear brake lever, pressure goes to the rear caliper and also to the front calipers center pistons. Guess what? Now the left torque are rotates again and adds pressure the 2nd master cylinder again and back to the rear. Kind of a round de round. This may not be entirely accurate as I havnt studied it for a couple years, but its close.

    Dont believe me on the rear? Go down the road and jam the rear pedal down. See the front forks compress? Front braking action is going on. That is one of the main agravations for me to go delink. For me some situations, I want rear brake only. Other situations, I want front only. Then again, many times, I want both together. When the brakes are separate, I can add more front or more rear braking if the situation demands it. The brakes are under my control, not some pre-determined algorithm from a non-rider Honda geek.

    MD
     
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    +1 to what MD said. I personally find it annoying in situations where I want a little rear brake only and feel the front start to load, especially when you near your limit for traction on the front. I'd like to de-link mine but after reading MD's saga I'm putting off the decision until I decide if I want to put different forks on the front.

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    On a 6th gen, I'd like to see somebody go with taking F4i lowers, F4i guts and 6th gen upper tubes. Then they could upgrade the valving and springs either Traxxion or Race Tech. Lots of caliper options to go with it too.

    MD
     
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