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Discussion in '1st & 2nd Generation 1983-1989' started by annarko, Jul 23, 2008.

  1. supertex

    supertex New Member

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    In that case it looks fantastic!:smile:
     


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  2. DKC'sVFR

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    Your plastic looks great.

    My guess is that you'll stick with the crowd and VFRCHUCK. And I don't blame you. If you feel like sticking your head out read the following:

    July 28, 2008

    Dear Shaughn357,

    I got mail from Yonan stating that he was interested in getting a line to a rear cowl replacement source. I told him about the AirTech rear cowl for racing scheme. He has not replied. Here is the web link to Airtech: http://www.airtech-streamlining.com/...7501986-88.htm. They show the VFR race fairings first, but if you scrool to the bottom of the page they mention CB750 and RC30 fairing. Click on the RC30 to see the race rear cowl for the RC30. Check out the difference in the look between the two bikes and their profiles.

    You might notice that Airtech does not offer a rear cowl for the race version of the 86-7 VFR 7XX. My idea was that a group of us band together and share the up front cost of the creation of a form and the manufacture of cowls for ourselves as a group first and as a business venture to defray the cost of the creation of the form later. We are the primary market for such a venture. No one else is going to save the VFR for street driving unless it is us. We control a dwindling market for these fairings. People come to VHSWORLD asking how/where to get fairings. We should control the manufacture of replacement parts for ourselves rathe than let an outside company profit off us.

    "reverse engineering". Its a nice idea and would probably result in a better quality end product. But cost has to be considered when getting a lazer map made for a $100 plastic fairing. Lazer maps are used in NC machining operations to direct a cutting tool in sculpting the piece being manufactured. I am not saying that is a bad thing, but I need to have a definite reason why we require so much perfection. No two plastic fairings are exactly the same. But that does not mean that a human eye can tell the differences. Before running off and spending any money on high tech maping I think we should go see Air tech or the other guy I spoke to and get a tour and speel about how they make the product and whether or not lazer maping is necessary to the manufacture of an acceptable fairing. If we have a good example of the rear cowl for the form maker to copy lazer maping may be unnecessary.

    It's not that I am sloppy, its that I'd rather have a replacement rear cowl that might be imperceptibly dimensionally incorrect rather than no replacement cowl because of a desire for perfection and the lack of funds to get a perfect product in the end. The cowl needs to be sold for a reasonable price so that the bike can be used on the street. But don't let my misgivings about the added cost of lazer maping disuade you from investigation of that avenue of finding a solution. Try to consider that we are trying to keep the bikes on the road by making it possible for anyone to replace their fairings without financial bloodletting.

    All this discussion has been about copying the original form of the rear cowl. Why go to all that trouble if a replacement is already out there? I'm proposing that we go for the option of the RC30 style rear cowl right now. Lets not get involved and bogged down with the problems of getting a form made of the original. Lets go to Airtech and see if a deal can be made to turn their RC 30 rear cowl into a viable street legal replacement cowl.

    I brought this idea up with Yonan as well. Yonan has a need for a part but he has not mentioned anything about investing in having a set of 20 or 30 or more made. I am looking for a group of owners of 86-7 VFR 7XX's that want to make the financial sacrifice and order up some parts.

    What I want to do is post this on the Forum under the "rear cowl?" thread and get some attention from the membership. We need to know if there are interested parties for a plastic replacement rear cowl, how many members there are who need replacement rear cowls and how many are not willing to wait for VFRCHUCK TO make them one at a time. How many are interested in an Airtech RC 30 replacement?
    The RC 30 cowl requires a tail light assembly. But I think the RC 30 style rear cowl is attractive and looks like it fits the original lower and top cowling and maybe even the 86-7 VFR RWB paint scheme. The RC 30 cowl fits the tank differently. If we could buy enough of them maybe we could get Airtech to modify the leading edge to mimic the angularity and length of the side cover of the original 86-7 VFR side covers?

    The tail light dummied up on the racing fairing is a raised rectangle. There are no hidden bosses or lugs to attach a low cost replacement tail light on the inside of the rear panel. This means it might be necessary to drill through holes in the back of the race fairing and use hardware to attach a rectangular light approximately the size of the raised rectangle. The top of the raised rectangle would have to be removed so the tail light could be hung in the opening. If we were smart we might find a tail light manufacturer who could manufacture a 100% red plastic rectangular light fixture with a lamp hole compatible with the ones in the original tail light. Then we could switch from one rear cowl to the other and not have to fuss over the bulb receptacles when making the change. If the RWB paint matched up on both rear cowls the owner would have either a RC30 or a VFR 7XX depending on mood. And any one with an 86-7 VFR could replace their rear cowl for essentially the original fairing cost and have it in the mail the same day it was ordered. Cost of Airtech RC30 race rear cowl is $207.02. I think we should get a discount if we ordered 25 or more. I could drive down and pick them up in my truck and send them out UPS ground to keep shipping costs at a minimum.

    We need about 6 to 10 people willing to stick their necks out and pay the up front costs of getting a mold made what ever way that is most efficient and cost effective, or get the Airtech RC30 rear cowl modified for seamless bolting onto a stock 86-7 VFR 7XX.
     


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  3. annarko

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    has anyone ever seen carbon fiber fairings for the VFR700?
     


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  4. frodus

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    nope, we probably would have told you by now if there was some sort of alternate.....

    Poly26 is the only one I've seen that makes the stock rear in plastic...

    they have a cool dual headlight front upper too.
     


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    Has anyone found or heard of an alternate subframe that will fit '87?
     


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  6. Gray Market

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    Some fit; some don't ...

    Hello:

    I own an '89 VFR750FK (RC24). Some of the body parts are identical, some are not. Notwithstanding color schemes, the tail-piece (which houses the tail light) is exactly the same (by that I mean, made in the same mold). The little side panels do, indeed, fit, but that little air scoop is in a different location (no big deal, I'd say). As to the rest of it, no, they do not "bolt up." The main fairing is in three pieces, not two (on the European models there are the two side panels, and a "belly pan"). Also, the front cowl is different because both the '88 "FJ," and the '89 "FK" (my bike) have a two position (hi/lo) windscreen and the windscreen attaches to the front cowl differently.

    And, last but not least, the solo seat cowl for the '88 "FJ" and '89 "FK" is a teensy different too, because those two sister bikes have grab bars on the tail end. So, there is a little cut-out along the bottom edge of the solo seat cowl to accommodate the grab bars.

    That said, I assume if you were able to get your hands on the mounting brackets, that you could fit FJ/FK bodywork on an FG/FH or F2.

    Gray Market
     


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  7. DKC'sVFR

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    Thanks for the accurate info Grey Market.

    Too late to buy though, with the dollar in the tank and no expectation of it recovering any time in the forseeable future, at least not in my lifetime, I figure on pasteing my jammed original tail light cowl back together and applying a thick coating of goo to keep it from disentigrating when my fat ass is in the saddle. I used to have some German contacts, but I doubt I could get any break on the Euro to Dollar exchange rate. Someone recently mentioned an English OEM parts site. Is there any better rate if you are exchanging Lb's for Dollars?
     


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  8. srutherford

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    I lost my left lower on my way to wrk the other day I wounder if I could chage my whole front cowl. My head light is from an 88-89 cbr600 and it fit the vfr. Plastics. Time to get creative. Inovention and innovation come from necessity hahah
     


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  9. dirty black bird

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    will the seat cowl from a 90-97 fit an 86/87?
     


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  10. faceman

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    I'm almost positive it will not fit. Most VFR plastics are specific to
    the model/production years. The 86/87 bodywork is pretty specific
    to those 2 years only. At least in the U.S. anyway.
     


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    Well
    I reckon the one I just won on ebay is a bust.measure twice cut once they say.guess,i'll take that into consideration when I attempt to make it fit.(dammit)
     


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    Anyone still want in on an RC30 tail cowl redesigned to fit the 86-87' 700/750?
    I was looking in to see if this was possible and what type of work it would require. Anyone tried this yet?
     


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